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[–] [email protected] 134 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Can't afford a home, probably gonna be illegal to be homeless. Guess they should just kill themselves then.

Fuck the modern conservative movement. No empathy for the downtrodden.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It is illegal to kill yourself.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Born too early to enjoy fully automated luxury gay space communism, born too late to participate in affordable housing, born just in time to go to jail for conspiracy to commit suicide because living is too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Canada has entered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Guess they'll just rot in prison, then

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The next step is blending them into a nutrient-rich slush that will be fed to people in workhouses

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Too much pork fat to be healthy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That’s a very Soylent remark…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think this is just about conservatives, it's also about the owner class and their quality of life. But def significant overlap.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/16/us-homeless-encampments-companies-profiting-sweeps

Revealed: how companies made $100m clearing California homeless camps Public spending on private sweep contractors is soaring across the state – and unhoused people allege poor treatment

This reminds of the gross, despicable private detention and private prison industry in America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They're connected. How many times can you get detained overnight and have your entire life belongings destroyed before you fight the police officer detaining you?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Would these people rather homeless people break into places and sleeping inside? This seems like the only plausible alternative.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Of course they would. Homeless people aren’t criminals and they can’t make being homeless a crime, per se, so they just do as much as they can to drive them towards crimes. It’ll be safer to avoid being caught if they break in and can be hidden but if they do get caught it’ll be horrendous. They’ll put them in slave camps-I’m sorry, “jails” and away we go.

It is the most heinous shit imaginable and these broken monsters get off to it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I mean vagrancy is increasingly being criminalized directly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Watch closely as they make providing shelter illegal as well (just like they made providing food illegal). The cruelty is the point.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a great idea.

Of course, if it's a crime to be homeless, it's also a crime to force or coerce someone into commiting that crime.

I look forward to the officials and landlords responsible to be jailed for each crime they helped commit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

"No, not like that!"

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago

That's right homeless, you can't sleep here. Just go home already.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know this guy who goes to the New York state courthouse everyday to sleep. He doesn't even try to hide. He does it in an occupied court room during a trial, on tax-paid furniture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And the dude smells like SHIT.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's a shame he doesn't have access to like, a shower or laundry or something.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

sorry no that would be communism. I'm glad you understand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Dangit, communism ruined this, too!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

good, the judge deserves to smell some consequence.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As if we don't know how this Court will decide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

At least two other people agree with you, myself included. Came to say the say same thing, pleasantly surprised it’s the first comment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I will say I'm somewhat optimistic about this case. Yes the current supreme court has a heavy partisan lean, but I've seen some decisions from the court which my pessimistic side didn't expect to go the way they did.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

"Let them sleep inside". paraphrasing Marie Antoinette. smh.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

Where do we put them if every city, every village, every town lacks compassion and passes a law identical to this

This is why there needs to be a national effort around this, rather than this patchwork approach which often just (expensively&wastefully) moves the problem around without solving it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

So, they won't help them and won't let them be on the streets? Man, homeless folks need to learn to levitate then, so they can sleep in the air instead.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

How's that old quote go again? "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This seems like a no-brainer to me... though it probably isn't. Obviously you have a constitutional right to sleep, wherever you can make space for yourself. If these cities and downs don't want people sleeping outside, they need to provide indoor space for people who haven't actually committed crimes. We treat our criminals better than we treat our homeless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

fuck their laws, I think, is the ruling here. just fuck them completely. we do not have a society. your conscience is the only guide.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

This is probably the most prescient episode of Star Trek ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_Tense_(Star_Trek%3A_Deep_Space_Nine)

Basically Sisko and friends go back in time to America in 2024, where it's illegal to be homeless and they get put in an open air prison.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Something something, sanctuary districts, something something, Bell Riots. Almost on schedule. WW3 next, then first contact.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately, due to a budget restriction, first contact has been canceled. Please accept our apology in the form of nuclear winter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Belk Riots - September 2024

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Bell.

But yes this seems exactly like the precursor to the Bell Riots...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Had to look it up, Jesus that's a bit too on the nose.

Alright, I need to finally watch Star Trek through and through.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Enjoy, friend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They really love pushing buttons dont they

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