"study finds subjective experiences are not absolute and universal"
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I had a huge argument with art curator over how a wall a black is not art. Got in face about how if it's that easy I should just do it. I'm like bruh I did it in My room as a child. Modern art is soo pathetic.
Arguing with people that something "isn't art" is what's pathetic. Art is subjective. Maybe let people enjoy what they enjoy instead of being a massive bellend about it
I don't care someone likes a accent wall. My issue is no one deserves a pat on the back for something people do regularly. Do something special if you want to be remembered for your art. More upset with the people who enable this. I met way better artists in college that won't ever get thier dreams come true and this dude gets "famous" Tragedy is the only wat to describe this.
I mean, if that's the example you're going for.... It's actually quite easy to imitate Van Gogh, yet everyone has a reproduction somewhere at home. The fact that it's easy to imitate doesn't make it less artistic. If your vision of good art is photorealistic paintings, maybe you should open your mind about it. Have you actually been to some contemporary art exhibitions? I'm not saying you have to like everything but there's some amazing work being done by passionate people. Generalisation like "modern art is pathetic" doesn't seem to indicated a real understanding of art and intentions.
Replication is relatively easy. Origination of a new art style is not. It’s the same reason why anyone could make a Jackson Pollock painting but it won’t be a jackson pollock.
Like the guy who pooped on a tile and had it made into production and then tiled a room with it? Or who made a machine that eats and generates human like feces? Or the dirt room exhibit which is just a room in a building full of dirt?
I get they are trying to express themselves but that doesn’t make it inherently profound.
This like saying "hip-hop suck's because insert douchebag rapper here___ exist." It clearly shows a lack of understanding of the nature and intentions of art, and it usually comes from people who never never actually even tried to understand it. Being cynical is easy, taking interest in something requires an intellectual effort, which is a thing that seems to be unpopular in modern society. Some people are just better off with ticktock I guess.
Nothing is inherently profound.
I get to go to some contemporary art museums for work. Just another example, the creepy sounds, videos, and installations are just horror show stuff. Like I think the people who made it need mental help and I queue in a line to see it which makes me feel worst. I want to be inspired by art to do better not feel like crap afterwards or feel scammed. Never understood intention in art. I don't want a backstory. It should speak for itself.
Well I actually made a career of what you call "creepy sounds", lol. It's called electroacoustic music. Once you take more then a few seconds to listen to it, the "horror" impression quickly goes away.
Refusing to do any intellectual effort is what led to some young people limiting their cinema experience to marvel movies. I mean, it's basically visual fast-food, fun from time to time but there's so much more to discover. I get that it might not be your bag, but spitting on every contemporary artist's work because you don't like it is way too closed-mind. I personally don't care about anime, never have, but I get that some people are into it and don't need to say they're all stupid. I'm actually sure I would find some amazing things if had time to look into it. Maybe I will someday. I suggest you look into modern artist. Ai Weiwei is a good start for example.
Maybe your right. I was there for few minutes, confused, and left. I know humans are easily influenced so it's possible I could not have given it a chance given the Half the things in the museum was ready to be in The Ring. So I can go in next time with a different mentallity, What's the expected human response ?
Checking out Wei Wei in under a minute. Fountain of light, love it. The other samples totally lost me. Forever bicycle is impressive but induces anxiety. Sunflower seeds is an example of something I take issue calling itself "Art". It's painted seeds leveled to appear like carpet. What intellectual effort am I missing?
Well that's refreshing! Thanks for reading my reply and having an open-mind about it! I get that contemporary is not for everyone, but I think most people can be surprised if they just gave it a chance. Lot's of great (and bad, of course) artists out there. Glad you look at Ai Weiwei's work. If you get past first impressions and look behind the surface, you'll see that he never does anything without a reason. Sunflower is an interesting example: it's not a painting but 100 million (!) porcelain sunflower seeds scattered on the musuem's floor. Each hand painted if you can believe that. Sunflower seeds are a important symbol in China, and Weiwei is a fierce critic of China's political regime (pretty much all of his works are about it, he actually went to jail for it). I'll let you make what you want of this but I think there's more then meets the eye to this specific work. Cheers