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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Most of the discussion and sources of content talk about movies and series.

I've been recently looking for psy and techno music, finding FLAC or WAV with active seeders feels like striking gold. It's definitely been a while since I've looked for active torrent sites and it feels more barren than ever.

Edit: Thank you all for all that valuable information. The reddit group really wasn't this helpful and valued making fun over adding real use able knowledge.

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's certainly alive and exists.

But access to music is easy and affordable. It's more inconvenient for me to pirate it than just use a streaming service.

I also listen to a lot of independent artists and rather buy their stuff to support them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Yup, I buy what I like on Bandcamp.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only music I pirate is stuff that isn’t on Spotify, namely Nintendo game soundtracks

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Expect a cease and desist order

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doug Bowser will be at their doorstep shortly

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I prefer there not being any lag in-between songs, which most streaming services have.

I usually use a streaming service like YouTube (through piped) to find new artists, then use soulseek to download their entire discography.

The problem with streaming is that the companies will eventually figure out new ways to squeeze every penny out of you. The once 'free' YouTube is now blocking adblocks, and Spotify requires DRM to be installed for it to function.

For me, piracy isn't just about convenience or price, it's mainly about control over the media I have.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The thing is not every popular or moderately popular song is on any streaming site. I'm a fan of 90s and 00s trance music, and there are some notable songs that aren't available on any of the most popular paid services, or are available only in newer, re-recorded versions or remixes - some of them are available on Spotify, but not all. YouTube Music has such an advantage that you can listen not only to the songs uploaded by record labels, but also to countless additional songs available on YouTube, however most of the time they are in worse quality (AFAIK max audio bit rate in YT videos is 128 kbps). So while streaming services are now affordable and have very extensive audio library, they have some shortcomings that one can only fill with physical media or piracy.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The soulseek network is still alive and well.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

why pirate when bandcamp has everything I want on FLAC for pennies

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The album prices are pretty high sometimes and many artists are not on bandcamp

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I buy on Bandcamp and pirate through Soulseek (specifically Nicotine+).

I also buy Vinyls.

Torrenting music has been pretty trash for me so I haven't bothered in ages.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

bandcamp

I didn't know about bandcamp. I'm gonna buy some albums there. The music is drm-free? I think that what bandcamp and itch.io are doing should be the future of the industry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, the music there is drm free. Keep in mind it's not ALL music. It's mostly music from independent artists. But they are the ones that need the most support. So go all in!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Since Apple Music / Spotify I don’t find it necessary. Far more likely to pirate TV / movies because they’re spread out across so many different services and require so many different subscriptions.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

I have Spotify through a family plan but I do download backups for when the enshitification happens to them.

I just use lidarr with the deezloader script. Sign up for a month of deezer premium every six months and just download my back log. For $30/yr I always have a relatively up to date, lossless quality, music library backup.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'ma get hate for this but I'm not pirating out of principle but when I think something it's to expensive for it's price. I live in a country with good salaries and have to work less than one hour for one month of endless music. To me that is a good deal but I am aware that it is not to everyone especially those from other countries. I mostly pirate Movies and TV Shows because you would need to pay over 50€/month to get access to all services.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have people download my files on soulseek/nicotine+ daily. Plus anyone that would pirate music probably already know how to rip it straight from streaming services.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As the normies went to streaming it became more gatekept and toxic. I’m mainly familiar with the attitude of trades only or straight up selling tracks (eg groupbuys with kids paying thousands of dollars for some shitty Kanye mumble demo). The game didn’t used to be like that. The days of the blogs with mega/rapid share links are long gone

I mean you got all the stream rippers eg SlavArt which is super nice. Soulseek is still alright but getting taken over by traders. RED/OPS around but you can’t just waltz in and I’d argue they don’t compare to what.cd or even OinK. RuTracker still got stuff going on

But when you’re after actual rare stuff that you can’t just buy or stream it can be real tough nowadays. Scene archives can be nice but very hard to get access and it’s mostly mp3s.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck traders, if you're on Soulseek do the right thing and blacklist them.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Soulseek is the goto piracy thing for music.

Streaming service ripping is alive and well.

Youtube scrapers like Newpipe and alternative frontend makes listening easy if you aren't quality obsessed. This has been adequate for my levels of listening.

Some private trackers have massive music collection dumps.

However, I'd say directly supporting artists through storefronts like bandcamp is the best way to go, where it's available. No DRM, no bullshit, the artist benefits. This, to me, is the best alternative to piracy.

Napster, Deezer, Tidal aren't terrible offerings either FWIW.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Soulseek is very much alive, try there. But please try to share your stuff too.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Spotify is very affordable and provides pretty much all music on earth. I'm not interested in jumping through hoops to download songs if I can just conveniently stream them all from one legit service.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally, I tend to only pirate music files that I just can't find anywhere else. For example, audiophile quality 45rpm vinyl rips of albums that might have only been sold in that format once, and for a very limited run. In cases like that, I almost feel a responsibility to maintain a copy because it is something that could very easily disappear from existence.

The guys doing the rips understand that they might own one of maybe a few hundred copies of a certain album, so they rip at audiophile quality and share.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can pay for any streaming service that serves FLAC and rip that. Very easy to do for Tidal and Deezer for example.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's dying at all. Check out private music trackers like https://redacted.ch/index.php or https://interview.orpheus.network/

OiNK -> WHAT.CD -> RED

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Rutracker.org maybe. I find pretty much every music I want on it. Though i mostly listen mainstream so maybe it is easier to find it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not for me, I'm pirating tons of songs in these days. Try Soulseek it's a gold mine of good music with great quality

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Music is hard to find on public trackers. RED and ORP are awesome private trackers that have basically anything you can think of. And if its not use the deezload telegram bot and send it a link to the song on deezer

Or you can you soulseek. That's still very viable even today

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Soulseek has most of what you need. 3ost has pretty rare stuff and rutracker as well

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I've always wondered why today you would torrent music instead of just downloading the audio from another site like yt.

The only upside I could see to torrenting music is the better quality, which is fair I guess, if you want super high quality.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The thing about it is that Spotify premium to me isn't that expensive and has everything I need

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

quite a bunch of services that can pull high quality music directly from streaming sites. straight up lossless stuff as well

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

For music from artists that don't exist anymore I mostly use ddl. If the artist is still there and offers a decent way of giving them money, I usually do that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I still use soulseek, been using it for nearly 20 years at this point

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I personally like being able to use Spotify as my front-end, but it doesn't support flac. So I personally pay for Deezer's Flac option, I use xManager for listening to music on Spotify, and I have a script setup to automatically download all my liked Spotify songs from Deezer in lossless flac. It's not free by any means, but is the best/easiest way to download music I've found.

https://github.com/jbh-cloud/spotify_sync

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

god, there's lot of telegram bots which can download music from services like deezer/spotify/soundcloud/etc

from my perspective, music piracy is not dying anytime soon

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I pay for family spotify - we all use it a lot and the Daily Mixes, Release Radar, Discover Weekly playlists are unbeatble. I've used Tidal, Deezer, Youtube music before but their playlist creation is nowwhere near as good.

However I do download from Deemix as a backup . For me 128kbp is totally fine for what I need - yes its not the highest quality, but through bluetooth speakers in the car or bluetooth headphones it sounds absolutely fine for me. It might not be CD quality, but its better than broadcast radio, which is perfectly good enough for me.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Pandora slowed a lot of my music collecting. Spotify and an unlimited data plan on my phone all but stopped it.

Don't need to dedicate 500+gb on my phone to my music if I can just pull up whatever I want. The only stuff I keep on my phone now is Dwelling of Duels and some game remixes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Music is a weird subject for me. I download practically everything else to have a copy of it on my hard drives. 30+TB of anime, movies, tv shows, manga, audiobooks, etc but music is the one thing I dont really download or listen to very often. I have a modded Spotify app that I use for the times I do listen to music. I do this so i dont have to pay for a subscription, but that is as far as my music piracy goes.

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