Let's be real, anything would be an improvement to the L85 lol
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The L85... which not even an HK redesign could salvage
German Engineering vs British "Engineering" lol
HK make (or at least adapted) the most recent versions of the L85. It is now more HK than anything else.
No matter how many unique designs are made, nothing quite beats the design feedback from the AR platform's extensive real world use against the American public.
Dumb question potentially but does Famas have anything to do with Hamas?
Asking the real questions. NCD bout to blow this conspiracy wide open
Hahaha - what’s an NCD?
Take a look at where you are.
Aha
Fair question
Such a niche reference, but so good. If you know it you can't not hear the voice.
Given production stopped in 1994 the receivers are at a minimum, 30 years old at this point. The MoD may want a domestic supplier, but BAE tore those facilities down decades ago after privatization. There’s no competition - if you issue optics and want the best for your ‘pocket army’, it’s a 416 variant or FN SCAR.
was gonna say, I'm not exactly a gun guy, but when playing Modern Warfare the FN SCAR with ACOG scope was always my favorite. Bad guys go down relatively quick and the scope works even after an EMP (IIRC).
Truely noncredible expertise
This is probably the best version of this format I've seen. Audibly laughed. The IAR really do be like that.
The IAR is dope; tinfoil theory of M16 replacement or no, it’s a legit (especially maritime) upgrade with a solid out the box issued package. Weight freed from individual load aside, the M249 accuracy is seriously lacking;
The M249 is not a particularly accurate weapon, accurate to only twelve minutes of angle
Cry as we may about belt fed rate of fire and suppression, volume fire is anathema to a resupply limited strike force. It’s the right choice as SAW replacement and rifleman weapon - volume fire on demand, but accurate fire first otherwise.
Using a carrying handle? Straight to jail
HK have mastered the art of personal weaponry. Any country that's outfitting their troops with anything else is coping
Disagree. They do dumb little things akin to Apple because “that’s how it’s designed to be used”. See: not offering multi-position collapsible stocks for decades, PMAG incompatibility for multiple 416 generations, pistol paddle magazine releases (even on US contracts), weird optic rail height on the 416, HK never really caring about aftermarket parts or third party accessories…
They build quality, well/over designed firearms with quirks - everyone does, the Belgians, Italians, Americans, etc. The 416/417 is the obvious choice because: the time they’ve spent iterating issues and, it’s top class AR variant with a proven G36 piston system. Not special HK wunderwaffen krautmagik
Why should HK care about third party accessories? Those do not matter at all for large military contracts.
M4 SOPMOD Block I and II would like a word with you…
I don't think special forces fall under large military contracts.
pistol paddle magazine releases
Why exactly is this a bad thing?
weird optic rail height on the 416
You can also spacer-up, you can't spacer-down.
Paddle magazine release isn’t a negative really, but it’s a weird thing to hold onto a very Euro-centric handgun feature, when selling to Americans who are used to a side button. You gain ambi use though
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the C7 being the best AR15 ever made.