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I feel like it's more than a bit insensitive to what Japan did in WW2 and that it's much like putting a swas on a VW, but people seem to not have a problem with it. What do you guys think?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My country was occupied and brutalized by Japan in WWII. WE don't give a fuck regarding the rising sun flag being used on cars. Neither should you. Stop being offended on behalf of others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Holy shit this is refreshing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I hate to get all nuance on the internet, but where and by whom are pretty relavant.

White people in the US? Its a little fetishistic.

Japanese people in japan? Its pretty standard, its been a symbol af the country for centuries.

Japanese people in Korea/korean areas? Its at least a little insensitive, if not more.

Context matters, and the impact of symbols varies across with setting, speaker, and viewer

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unlike Nazi Germany's use of their swastika logo, or perhaps the Confederate battle flag, the "rising sun" motif has a very long traditional history in Japan easily stretching back hundreds of years. Possibly more. Unlike the other two examples it's not like it was invented specifically to be the logo of a group of shitheads, it just happened to be a logo that was already available that some shitheads used for a while. Confederates like to try clam that their flag is "heritage." By contrast, the Japanese legitimately probably could.

The modern incarnation was adopted in 1870 or something. That predates WW2 by just a wee bit. IIRC it's still used by the modern Japanese navy (or "Self Defense Force," as they're called).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

No one makes that connection, outside from those who spend way too much time on the internet, and even then not many do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The only people that see it as anything other than an old design of Japanese military flag are terminally online people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Probably same a confederate flag on a car. Some see it as only southern pride and others see it as a emblem of the KKK.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Tacky as fuck and usually used by people who are clueless or trying to be edgy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The red dot makes it drift better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have a problem with it, but I just don't have much context or notions that would lead me to.

I'd be more interested in hearing how 日本人 feel about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe I misunderstood the initial question. Are we talking Japanese car culture in Japan? Or elsewhere in the world? I think that context and locale probably changes the sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I took import car culture to mean overseas away from a less homogeneous society to on that is possibly more multicultural. I wouldn't drive through Chinatown or Koreatown with a rising sun flag, since I understand the sign holds very different meanings to them compared to people who think it looks cool and like anime.

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