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One Piece? More like Woke Piece (hexbear.net)
submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

One piece is quantum woke. It's both one of the most woke anime ever and also one of the least woke anime ever and sometimes at the same time and sometimes in the same episode and sometimes in the same moment. I'll never forget how quickly my partner and I went from "oh good" to "are you fucking kidding me" in basically the same moment when the crew invited a prominent trans masc character to use the men's bath with them. It was simultaneously "they are a man so of course they can use the men's bath with us!" and also "AWOOGA BOOBA" Quantum woke. It's silly stuff. I still enjoy it though at least it has lots of good moments around some of those head scratchers.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I took it as "this is Sanji being shitty like he always is with trans people while everyone else is being normal". seriously though, Sanji is an incredibly transphobic and misogynistic character. every time he stops and acts human and empathetic, I love him. and then he's back to being the worst. he's the only character in media I've ever gone "I can fix him" with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

whole cake island almost fixes sanji but then he goes right back to being the worst. especially because we're supposed to think he's right about the transphobia thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

yeah. that comes about a decade after the most transphobic storyline i've seen outside silence of the lambs

also your average one piece arc is about luffy finding an island and saddling himself to the first revanchist claim to the throne, which isn't great

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

gayroller-2000 straw-hat-pirates

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

wait till they find out what Ivankov's powers are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

how did they get past bonclay lmao

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Kaidos son (I forget his name) will melt their brains

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

the uhh "discourse" about him is super fucked. Japanese pronouns aren't gendered so the translations are inconsistent. the anime, on the other hand, is extremely consistent. so you have a bunch of sweaty nerds trying to argue that the translations are Very Important so misgendering him is fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Weebs suddenly getting very scholarly about translations when its time to argue against a character being trans (the creator's statement is ofc usually something like "this character is trans")

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've got 7.327 references in the text to this character being trans

aaand I've got one piece of merchandise not produced or overseen by oda wherein there's one reference that misgenders him
so-true I knew she was a chick, Oda would never make a trans character

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

bon clay is at least categorizable as like a funny drag queen that we're meant to laugh at and think is ridiculous, because that's what we're meant to think

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

that's the first impression, yeah. but they turn out to be an incredible person. they gave so much just because they enjoyed laughing with the strawhats. they're the friend we all dream of having, the person we all wish we could be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

yeah but like, if you're a chud reading it you go "ah, even the funny ridiculous drag queen becomes a sympathetic character! oda kino goated!"

i'm not saying i AGREE i'm just saying it isn't actually that hard to fit into the worldview

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

completely fair. I think the character is well loved but enough people think the story is apolitical that I must recognize that people will stare straight at a dog and call it a cat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

a scary trans person forcefemming people isn't hard to fit into their worldviews, that's what they already think we all are

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

lmao ok

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Non-Binary piece

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

should have been called "gaytling punch"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Umm actually if he ate the pronoun-pronoun fruit he would die because you can't eat two fruits (I am 700-ish chapters in so may not know something).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am 700-ish chapters in so may not know something

I'm 200 episodes into the anime and it still makes me laugh at how fucking long it is

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah it's crazy reading the question corner at the end of a chapter and seeing a reference to it being like 2007 or something. I can at least say that the manga is pretty quick to read. I cannot imagine that the anime pacing keeps up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only if you've got one soul/heart, so you might be able to eat more if you have more of those. Who knows though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

What if someone who happens to be an incredible magical surgeon with magical cutting powers gains the ability to give people multiple hearts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

They already made the pirate that changes your gender idk why this is surprising