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Opinion: Personally I’m not too into the pickup segment let alone an electric Santa Cruz but hey, something new! We’ll see how it shakes out.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every EV tryin' to be under $50k and above 300 mile range. Good fuckin' luck, I'm getting tired of these promises.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s a target. You’re not going to hit it if you don’t try.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's CEO fluff to inflate an EV brand and everyone does it and back peddles on when the time comes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why would you object to that target? If they could deliver, they have a vehicle similar in cost to what many people pay and with sufficient range to overcome most people’s range anxiety.

I more object to them setting the target with “or”, rather than “and”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Because it's a bold faced lie that gets them a bump in stock price.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is just as ugly as the Hyundai Santa Cruz.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Another Minivan missing part of its roof. For fuck sakes car makers, electric Ford ranger Chevy S10 sized vehicle. For a reasonable price. The Maverick proves that people want and will buy pickups that size.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Preach it. A PHEV maverick would be amazing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they actually made enough of them. Out of all these hard to get cars, the Maverick is a unicorn. Ive seen maybe less than a handful on the road since theyve come out. Ive seen more Hummer EVs than Mavericks, considering that ones a rare sight too, given the cost of one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be based on where you live. Im in Austin TX and I see several mavericks every day but I think I’ve only seen 1 Hummer EV in the wild.

I also see a Rivian every day. But then I had a 8 hour road trip and I never saw once I got out of Austin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah I see rivians all the time. But then again, EVs are popular here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

They make plenty, just no one wants a unibody/fwd/generally incapable pickup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I want a phev double cab Tacoma with a 6-ft bed. I would buy that tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If Ford made regular cab 6' bed maverick with a manual I'd be all over it. Nobody makes a truly small pickup with a 6' bed anymore. In the US at least. I miss my Comanche.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo

Café standards make those trucks cost prohibitive in the US. It's dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

They could if they didn't insist on making every truck a four door

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They have to make every one the same config, its a unibody not a body on frame design. More in common with a civic than a ranger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can't. EPA and safety regs say you can't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I kinda like the look of the Santa Cruz though. My boss has one and its a handsome looking ute. The typical angry, squared truck that Ford/Chevy/Dodge make is kinda tired.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But even more useless!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand trying to make electric cars different but at least make it look decent my god. I don’t understand how this goes through everyone it does and they think “Yeah, this looks like a great everyday car someone will drive”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It’s designed for the target demographic.

People that want to tail gate you with their oversized vehicle blocking everything that their lights don’t blind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the look of it. Reminds me of a Santa Cruz.

Would love a truck like that, but damn, shits too expensive. Ive been priced out of new cars in that category.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also think that’s way too expensive and wonder how people afford those, but apparently they do. I haven’t even looked at pickups and decades, but the list price way back then is still more than I’d pay now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Man back then a base truck was 20 grand. Or a well equipped sedan for similar price.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A dedicated cowboy hat holder.

Is it the truckbed? Tell me its the truckbed. It's the truckbed isn't it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Size-wise it looks perfect. I also like the styling, but no chance in hell it's going to hit that price point unless they are essentially giving these away to try to gain marketshare. Of course if that is what they are doing, it is a dangerous game which could cost them the entire company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If I can't put a service bed or a stake bed or a dump bed on it is it a truck? Why would I want a truck with a bed shorter than a loader bucket? We need electric trucks that can replace the thousands of 200,000k mile fleet vehicles out there. This is just a tall El Camino.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would take an electric el Camino in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Touche. So would I.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My Honda pickup is also basically a tall el Camino. For us, and the majority of people, it’s great. All wheel drive that favors the front wheels (Lockable at low speed) for beaches and slick roads, full independent suspension to keep the tires planted, enough ground clearance for mountain roads, enough towing for a small camper (but 5k limit is not doing heavy work), and a bed to haul stuff. I’m not a contractor or farmer that needs a real truck, so the compromises that make it better on wet or slick roads is perfect.

But I agree, we need F150 lightnings too for the contractors and farmers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A truck bed that can't hold an adult bicycle is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Which makes it a much more dangerous and deadlier El Camino

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As long as they look like this, Rivian or Cybertruck I'm sticking with my Diesel Navara.