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My wife and I started talking about this after she had to help an old lady at the DMV figure out how to use her iPhone to scan a QR code. We're in our early 40s.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What new tech arrived after smartphones anyway?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

As long as the core of new tech is still largely based on what we have now, I don’t think so. Might be a little slower to adapt, but millenials will be able to if they wanted to. If it’s an entirely new invented or discovered technology, then maybe we’ll become like boomers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm an elder millennial. While I'm good on my computer use, cars are starting to get too advanced for me to repair myself. Eventually, I'll have an electric car and be entirely dependent on a mechanic to repair the vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Elder millennial."

That phrase. That phrase scares me. The oldest millennials are apparently 42 years old according to some random website I found. Not quite elder, but still making me feel like time is going too fast.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think so. I do think there will be a decline as we get older, but the overall level of aptitude will be higher than the generations before and after. It's the younger generations I'm worried about. Other commenters have already mentioned it, they've grown up with already well-polished UX to the point that they don't need to understand how a device works to use it. Most of us here have a high level understanding of how computers work, the app or browser you're reading this from, because we had to understand how they worked if we wanted to be able to use them when we were younger.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

As a millennial who grew up with the early internet and a home computer, I think we'll be fine until we're not.

When the Chinese hackers find a way to patch our wiping robots with software that sodomizes you while humming Yìyǒngjūn Jìnxíngqǔ, I think we may struggle a bit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Nah, I've met kids who know more than I did back then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My experience is the more things “just work” the worse people are with the tech.

Those who grew up with computers in the 80s are typically the best at problem solving / hacking / debugging.

My kids literally don’t have a fucking clue, sadly. I thought they were going to grow up super geniuses with the amazing technology they inherited.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I doubt it. We got in on this sort of stuff early in life, so I don't think we'll struggle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think that will happen. Mom used to build websites, and dad is in charge of tech support for a power company. They are in their mid-late 60s. But they've worked with computers most of my life. We have had home computers since the mid 1980s. Neither of them have trouble with smartphones, tablets, or any other electronics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They already are.

I recall seeing studies posted back on Reddit basically stating that since modern tech is (usually) easy to use and highly polished, young people simply don't understand how the underlying tech really works. On the flip side, those of us who grew up having to set up comm ports and allocating extended RAM and set dip switches on computers kind of had to learn how all this worked or else none of our stuff would function. If you understand the basics then it is easier to deal with stuff when it goes wrong - it doesn't become an unsolvable box of mystery.

I have much more faith in getting a problem resolved nowadays by a younger Boomer or Gen X'er who tinkered with some of the early computer tech from the 80s & 90s, than a Zoomer or Millennial who has only ever used iPhones and modern Macs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mellenials aren't "young people" anymore

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They already are. I have a teenager. She is technologically illiterate as are most of her friends. Oh, she has an iPhone, iPad, laptop, etc. But when it comes to doing anything more than using her favorite apps on it, it's like she's completely lost.

We lose some of our capacity to learn as we age but I think we also kind of get to a place where our plate is pretty much full and you just let a lot of things go that aren't important to you. I feel that way about certain things sometimes. Hell, I work with technology for a living but there's so much that changes so fast. There's a lot of stuff that sounds interesting but I'm not going to spend a bunch of time learning about it because I don't have time and don't care. Unless it has an impact on me getting paid of course.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, absolutely. I'm a Xennial so I'm old. My world is tech because it fascinated me when I was young (and lucky enough to have access because it wasn't a guarantee in those days) and I made a living from not being afraid of tech. I dealt with boot disks, dip switches, losing your Internet connection because someone in the house picked up the phone. My 9 year old thinks something is broken if a program asks them to update.

We built this world of it just works to make sure boomers didn't have a panic attack everytime they used a computer and the unintended consequence is our children panic and have no interest in understanding the the underlying process of the systems they work with, because it just works.

I try to get my kid to care but they don't, they just want Minecraft to work NOW.

All that being said I also have lost interest in a lot of what's new. I know TikTok and Whatsapp exist but I have never used them. AI feels big enough that I've messed around with it but I never think oh let me ask ChatGPT... I'm sure in 10 years my kids or an employee are going to laugh at me as I read documentation and forums to figure something out and they will say Bro why not just ask ChatGPT. They just want everything to work and give them the answer now and I think it's going to blow up in all of our faces.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. They will try to plug keyboards and screens into the neuralink chip.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The way some of my older millenial and x-er friends are reacting to AI I sort of wonder if that'll be the dividing line between generations. Someone in their 40-50s can probably afford to ignore AI in the coming years but a zoomer ignores it at their own peril. I bet there'll be millenials in a couple decades complaining about how it's crazy the youths have 'AI friends'.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

100% sure, I don't even know how to use discord, that shit is confusing as hell while the fediverse is no biggie

And I am completly ignorant about tech I intentionally chose to ignore like tiktok and snapchat

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every new technology so far has been an enshittified version of what we had in the early 2000s, so no.

Lemmy is good, but is basically crowd sourced reddit. So not exactly an alien concept.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I think yes, it’s inevitable. The reason why is that keeping up with constantly changing technologies requires constantly learning how to do everything over again, and again, and again. It will get tiring eventually, and people will feel that learning the ins and outs of yet another social media app just isn’t worth it when they can already get by.

I say this as as software developer who sees a new tool or framework or language come out every year that’s bigger and better than the last, and I see the writing on the wall for myself. I’ll be outdated and just some old geezer who works on legacy tech stacks in 10-20 years, just like the guys working in COBOL or whatever now.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I will. I’m eldest Gen Z (+ a software developer) and I’m already noticing that I’ve just stopped engaging with new tech. I know that one day 30 years down the line I’m going to probably struggle with new tech.

Tech in general is advancing at such an exponential rate that it’s going to surpass a whole lot of people quickly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Will they? They already are. The number of people I see who don't know what a file manager is is insane. It's insane because I remember before smartphones, everyone knew what a file manager was. They forgot? I don't know. It makes no sense to me.

I think in general, people are bad with technology.

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