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Sam Oh, the Vice President of Marketing at Ahrefs, recently shed light on this capability. Oh disclosed that a video posted by Ahrefs was flagged by YouTube for a rather unexpected reason. The video in question displayed a snippet from a book, and within that snippet was the name "Donald Trump.".

Following this, YouTube flagged the video under its "Election advertising in the United States" clause. Ahrefs was subsequently prompted to "Review and fix ads that violate ads policy to update the status of your campaign."

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

old news. the transcript commonly mistakes words in videos for swears or racial slurs and gets people demonetized

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I think this is more of an official acknowledgment and them exploring how it works, not so much “breaking news” for those of us in the know. I’d imagine most people are probably unaware of this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don't think this is referring to the audio transcript, this looks like youtube's running the videos through an OCR to read text in the actual video

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a secret; they've been doing this for a long time. It's why you see a lot of YouTubers who cover news stories black out certain words if they share snippets of a news article.

What's weird about it is that the policy doesn't seem to be the same for text as it is for audio. For instance, Philip DeFranco has to censor out words like "rape" from articles he puts up graphics of, but doesn't have to censor it out as he narrates the article verbally.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Semi-related but it drives me crazy that there can be non-censored swearing in a video but the subtitles have it censored. Imagine being punished for being deaf

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder if the scenario with spoken vs printed words getting treated differently is due to the differences in accuracy of google’s audio and ocr technology. Hi-res text images makes ocr very good at deciphering between grape and rape but with audio it may not be as good.

Similarly, I wonder if the fact that google is autogenerating subtitles for videos makes a difference. When it’s spoken in a video it’s not something they’ve produced but when it’s in subtitles they have generated it is something they produced and could somehow open themselves up to legal issues? Regardless it’s still unfortunate that YouTube is forcibly censoring subtitles.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is anyone surprised?

We knew they could do automatic captions (Don't know why don't offer that standard any more). We know they monitor what's in the video, meaning the words. We know this was an automated system.

I don't even think there's an ounce of anything new here to anyone who has been paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And I think google offers to translate text from picture for a while? So why wouldn't they implement this to YouTube? And of course they have to moderate the content if possible.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What has gone so wrong with all these gigantic social media companies that they had to start all collectively digging their graves in the 2020s?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not any kind of economist or anything, but one theory I read is that the collapse of the Silicon Valley Bank scared investors and venture capitalists into wanting a ROI ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That makes sense for some, but Facebook started it's wrist cutting before that, and YouTube has been testing out how far they can push the line for a long time, but the last few years it seems like all of them are working double time to drive all their users away.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Money costs money for the first time since 2008.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

We all died from covid three years ago.

This is actually hell.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

WTF

Do they flag "Donald Trump" content regarless of the context? What bothers them, calling him a piece of shit or praising him?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

From context it seems like it was a video ad and they have rules about political advertising and such.