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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course it’s avoidable! Phone spoofing has been known to be a vulnerability for years, yet so many companies still insist on using SMS for 2FA “for security”. ffs, if you are concerned about security, use a proper TOTP or HOTP, or a hardware token.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the fault lies squarely in the hands of telcos. They're meant to send you an SMS or call you to confirm any port before it happens. If they're not following those rules they should be held liable.

On another note I wish banks and other financial institutions would provide other 2FA options in addition to SMS. It's just crazy that I have better security tech on my Steam account than my bank account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

but they call and pretend to be you and get the number ported to the SIM they have

check out the Hot Swaps episode of Darknet Diaries

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's funny in a sad way that 2FA was supposed to be real secure but like all other security, the human element is the biggest weak point, and the custodians of it (telcos) are asleep behind the wheel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

2FA works. It is supposed to be something you know (password) and something you control (like a secure hardware key or app). The problem is people don't control their phone numbers, the telcos do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's worth noting that 2FA is still a security improvement. Using SMS for 2FA doesn't introduce any vulnerabilities compared to no 2FA. It's just not nearly as good as doing 2FA using a TOTP app or dongle. Or using hardware security tokens like FIDO2.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless the "2FA" channel is what they use to verify password resets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but that's separate from 2FA and is pretty common even in places that don't offer any 2FA.