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Judge Arthur Engoron said he wants the company to inform the court-appointed monitor in advance of "any efforts" to get a bond.

The judge who handed down a $464 million judgment against Donald Trump, his company and co-defendants in a civil fraud case has ordered the Trump Organization to keep the court closely informed about any efforts to secure a bond ahead of Monday’s deadline.

New York state Judge Arthur Engoron said Thursday that Trump's company needs to provide details to a court-appointed monitorabout attempts to obtain a bond that would stop authorities from collecting on the judgment while it appeals last month's ruling. The monitor, former federal Judge Barbara Jones, is to report regularly to Engoron.

"The Trump Organization shall inform the Monitor, in advance, of any efforts to secure surety bonds," Engoron said in his order, as well as "any personal guarantees made by any of the Defendants," which would include the former president.

The order — part of a larger ruling detailing and expanding the monitor's duties — comes days before the deadline for Trump and his co-defendants to secure a bond that would stop New York Attorney General Letitia James' office from being able to collect on the judgment while they appeal Engoron's ruling.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How dare they assume Trump will commit fraud, simply because he's been found guilty of fraud!!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fraud by itself may be enough to disqualify him from office.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

It's insane that Trump could survive any of the things he said in 2016. The same people who thought Obama wearing a tan suit was horrible were fine with the pussy grabber.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While I agree that should be the case, what makes you think it will be? The Supreme Court just ruled the Constitution doesn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, you have a point. I was thinking about requirements for impeachment which is related to removal from being in office. I think the SC majority got theirs wrong and the minority is right. But they don't want to be part of judgements, ie their job, at least part of the time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

No one in the history of this country has been more unfairly persecuted!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No one will give him the $500 milion he needs, he even put up a 5 acer lot on the edge of Mara Lago, valued at $34 trillion as collateral.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

So generous; who could possibly scoff at a deal like that‽

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What happens if Trump simply disregards the monitor, and posts bond?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The monitor isn't preventing him from posting bond, they are simply saying if he somehow comes up with bond he must immediately inform the monitor so they don't accidentally start liquidating his properties.

As I understand it, Trumps business shenanigans are so sketch that they wanted this monitor to make sure he isn't shuffling around money to game collection.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Again, my question stands, what if he ignores the monitor and posts bond? What’s preventing him from just doing what he wants?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nothing. Up until Monday that is explicitly an option for him, and what the courts probably expected to happen.

After Monday it's too late.

I think what they are afraid of is that he secures a bond and then doesn't properly notify anyone. So then they liquidate his assets and he goes "Whoa I have bond! Look at what you just did to me! So illegal, no other person has been treated so unfairly by the courts!"... I think that's the scenario they are trying to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I call doubt that they will seize his stuff. Watch he get some kind of extension. Swear they going let him continue to break the law and face no judgment until after November.

Now if we can keep in out of the Whitehouse then maybe just maybe he can go to jail then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I too am pessimistic. I am not a lawyer, but every legal analysis I have read paints this situation as pretty bad for him financially. Maybe he gets bond before they start liquidating, but from everything I read he is extremely unlikely to win out in the appeal process. Best likely outcome from him is Putin somehow gives him a half billion dollar loan and it doesn't somehow run afoul of sanction and finance law. Or it does run afoul, but it's a criminal thing and he has been able to dodge criminal cases like Neo from the Matrix.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I am confused on what she is monitoring then if any of this was allowed.