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Disapproval of Elon Musk is top reason Tesla owners are selling, survey says (electrek.co)

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[-] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I originally bought Tesla shares back in 2018 because Elon Musk was making a lot of sense and traditional car makers seemed blind to the obvious transition away from oil. I was also optimistic about their AI vision and the fact he got Andrej Karpathy to join made me very optimistic.

But lately, Elon Musk seems to be an idiot. It's not about approving/disproving. The dude just lost his mind and that won't be good for the company.

Karpathy also left. You don't leave the company with the most cameras on the road if your whole schtick is computer vision and AI.

To be fair, he might just be hopping on the generative AI bandwagon.

But I'm sure that if Elon still had a sound mind, he would have found a way to keep Karpathy in the Tesla fold.

Fuck it, I'll go one step further. Elon Musk used to be an OpenAI board member alongside Sam Altman. In 2022, Elon Musk was the richest man in the world. Unless he is an idiot and treated Sam Altman badly, I am sure Sam Altman must have chatted with him in 2022 (or earlier) to tell about how awesome ChatGPT was going to be. Like, if your former colleague is the richest man in the world, you give that guy a call, right?

So how the hell did he spend $40B on fucking Twitter when Microsoft bought OpenAI for $10B?

How did he not end up owning a significant chunk of OpenAI?

I seriously think he lost his mind.

Disapproval is the wrong word. It's a loss of trust in his ability to execute.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I more or less agree. I could not have done a bigger 180 on this guy. He was my hope for a better future and now he's one of the biggest reasons for the world becoming a much worse place IMO.

It legit bums me out.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I could not have done a bigger 180 on this guy.

180 is 180. Anything more and it would be 181.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Fuck it, I’ll go one step further. Elon Musk used to be an OpenAI board member alongside Sam Altman. In 2022, Elon Musk was the richest man in the world. Unless he is an idiot and treated Sam Altman badly, I am sure Sam Altman must have chatted with him in 2022 (or earlier) to tell about how awesome ChatGPT was going to be. Like, if your former colleague is the richest man in the world, you give that guy a call, right?
So how the hell did he spend $40B on fucking Twitter when Microsoft bought OpenAI for $10B?

Wow. That's something I hadn't really considered - very good point. As an innovator myself, you can bet your butt that I would be telling the richest man on the planet what advances had been made with the software.....

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But lately, Elon Musk seems to be an idiot.

Lately...?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Las Vegas loop, instead of a tunnel you drive in or a subway, he took the worst parts of both and made something worse. The whole is worse than the sum of its parts

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Elon’s mental health clearly didn’t survive COVID.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

I use a car share co-op these days, but if I had to own again, I would count Tesla out of consideration specifically because I don’t want to support Musk.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

What is a car share co-op and how does it work? It sounds like it would be a major pita but I don't want to prejudge.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where I'm at, you join the coop, and then there are cars all around town. You can rent any of the vehicles for as much time as you want (specific return times or open ended) and insurance and gas is included. Some let you leave them anywhere in town, some you have to return the vehicle to the same spot at the end.

Super handy if you don't need a vehicle often, or if you need a different class vehicle than what you have (e.g renting a truck to do a move or bring something large home)

It's really affordable.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m in one of these co-ops. Mine, you have to return the car to the same spot. You pay per 15-minute increment up to a daily cap. There’s also a fee per km driven. OTOH the car share handles the insurance, maintenance, cleaning, and even gas (there’s a fleet card in each car). It’s significantly cheaper than owning when you use a car maybe three times a month.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Could be like a carpool app, I had a few coworkers use them when I lived in San Francisco, not sure if that's what OP is talking about.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I'd been saving to get a new car for a decade but I dumped Tesla from consideration back in 2020 when I saw how they responded to the pandemic. Musk clearly put corporate profits above worker safety. The management team's job is to find a way to do both. So I bought a Chevy Bolt EUV. It's a Chevy, right, but damn, it's the best new car experience I've had. That thing is a blast to drive and 130 eMPG is awesome.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Weird to suppose anyone thought this wouldn't occur

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

True, but its always good to have proof, even of facts that are "obvious".

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There’s a buyer for every seller

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seriously. Just check out the front page of YouTube when you're signed out. There's almost always at least one video there praising Musk, and the people in the comments are treating him like a God who can do no wrong. The general public idolizes him.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The general public idolizes him.

You've overestimating the reach of online marketing.

Yes, online pretenders have been paid to pretend to idolize Musk. And this is enough of a trick to get others to idolize Musk. But in my experience, its a small minority of people who pay attention to internet drama or CEOs.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And here I am uninterested because they don’t support CarPlay/AA lmao

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To be fair, GM just made a big mistake here and they had a fair number of good EVs and Hybrids.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This article is like 3 weeks old...

[-] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

I find it so weird that the guy at the top of the company factors into what car people want to drive. Even more so after the fact, he already got the sale from these people.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Elon Musk's cult of personality and fake bullshittery was the only reason to ever buy a Tesla in the first place.

Now that he is alienating his core environmental cult of personality, he is now catering to right wing dudes like DeSantis. Presumably because the far right is easier to trick than the old environmental faction.

Surprise surprise, the environmentalists don't like that.

No reasonable person would overbuy a $50,000 car with as crappy quality, non-functioning windshield wipers or crappy cruise control that loses features every year. (What has 10 years of advancements gotten Tesla? Answer: they lost RADAR and now also lost Ultrasonics this year)

This vehicle gets crappier and more overpriced each year, while competitors advance forward. Today, there is no reason to buy a Tesla over a Mach E or RAV4 Prime.

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

It doesn't.

The survey also found that 87% of Model 3 owners are considering a Tesla for their next vehicles.

That kind of brand loyalty is unheard of. Especially for cars. Given Tesla's parabolic sales, anyone selling their Tesla because of Musk is in the extreme minority. All of them frequent Lemmy and Reddit.

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