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It's gone. Wanted to ask over here before I went to check on Reddit.

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[–] freamon 111 points 1 year ago (10 children)

lemmy.world deleted their copy of it (due to site rules, and prompted by a concerned Internet citizen)

It's probably the biggest Community in all of Lemmy, so the ramifications will be interesting.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (17 children)

lemmy.world has been acting very weird lately. Almost like they are the one and the only authority of Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Almost like LW admins don't want to end up in jail.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.world after that whole hack thing a few weeks ago and it seems like lemmy.world has been going through some weird shit ever sense.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's their instance, they are free to do as they wish to comply with their local regulations

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Yea… it’s time to boogie off this instance for a while before they turn into Reddit Jr.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like PEOPLE are acting like they're the only authority of Lemmy.

The whole point of Lemmy is that unlike Reddit, you can give middle fingers akimbo to the server and still participate.

It's not that difficult to jump ship.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That "concerned internet citizen" was a 10 hour old account whose only post was complaining about piracy. It was a troll out for some good ol manipulation.

[–] freamon 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, that's not true. They also had posts complaining about trans people existing and Star Trek fans being nerds. Still, it's admirable - in a way - the effect they had: I ask the lemmy.world admins for updates on fixing their technical issues, and get no reply. This guy makes one post, and they all leap into action.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

oh well better late than never to migrate i spose

~~EDIT: nvm looks like dbzer0 has like 0 moderation (users just uploading gore to random subs and other shit) so can't blame lemmy world admin from having to defed. Shame.~~

EDIT EDIT: oh its just anti piracy, i thought it was a defed !

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Making official statements on Discord, and not Lemmy is WILD

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Is allowing access to piracy resources the same as hosting piracy resources? Is Comcast at risk of being shut down because they didn't block everyone's access to RARBG? This is largely rhetorical; the answer is "no". lemmy.world's admins are not being honest.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lots of folks here with strong opinions that have never dealt with legal proceedings, or an itemized bill calculated in 6-minute increments.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They did what? How are they suppose to tell me which communities I can check and which I am not allowed to see?

Time to move to a new instance, good riddance

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Behold, federation in motion

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm gonna start my own personal instance actually.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Huh? The Piracy community on dbzer0 is still up, just checked.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People on LW can't see it anymore apparently

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another reason to create an account on a smaller instance rather than .world

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.

De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

Defederation is bad.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (25 children)

LW turned into a shit show pretty fast...

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world blocked it. I guess it is their right to do so, if you want to keep access to it move to another instance (it is not healthy that so many people are on LW).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Great, time to change instance. At least it will have > 10% uptime

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

If anyone's looking for a new instance, feel free to join mine! https://lemmings.world

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Its not gone. Its just blocked by lemmy.world...

Its hosted on dbzer0

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