Just to add context because this is a somewhat polarising headline, gamergate shit is back on the rise. Gamers generally aren't being considered potential extremists, only literal extremists that happen to consider their opinions as representative of gamers
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First they came for extremist gamers and I did nothing because... fuck those guys.
Extremist gamers as in? Playing Call of Duty while strapped to an aeroplane wing?
Lmao getting a 360 noscope while base jumping from the Burj Khalifa
The people who say the n word through their mics
Extreme =/= Extremist
Those would be X-tremeists. It's an easy mistake to make.
This article quotes Hasan Piker and thats all I needed to see to know everything I need to know about this article. Nobody should be quoting that guy as the authority on anything except for having the evident need to continually hear his own voice, and having some of the most hypocritical, worst takes I have ever heard in my life.
What makes you view Hasan so negatively?
Hasan is a grifting fool who promotes socialism and communism and takes people's donations but is already rich. His takes are complete garbage.
Because socialism is when you're poor
Yeah I honestly expected more nuanced takes from decentralized Reddit but I guess I expected too much. Nobody has provided any examples of his "bad takes" except that he makes money off his work, as he fucking should. So I'll just move on with my day. Been watching the guy on and off for years, haven't donated to him once so not sure where I'm being grifted lmao.
Also is this place being brigaded by incels/right wingers? Some of the comments on this post are concerning.
Edit: nice username and profile pic, I'm a big fan of King Gizzard myself, Infest The Rat's Nest gets a spin weekly!!!
This place has a lot of lib/leftist infighting, it's generally the most left social network in my experience though
He's grifting them into not listening when he says "I'm a socialist propagandist", I guess
Hasan was quoted by this article because he was notably outspoken about the original gamergate, had the correct take on it, and the current trend is literally just an attempt at relitigating those same issues.
Here's an exercise for you: can you name a single person on the planet that would more appropriate to quote on this issue than Hasan, and why?
Even if I accept and agree with the position in your comment, there isn't.
Anita Sarkeesian. Ja Rule might also have some deep personal insight into the video game bigotry pipeline. He’s a face and personality I respect.
I think in your rush to namedrop someone else involved you maybe neglected to consider whether that's actually the case. Anita went into hiding and gamers don't know who she is anymore
I get the not so vague feeling of contrarianism and I honestly dig it. Lemmy’s inability to keep sticks away from posteriors is exhausting.
Hasan was the biggest driving force behind anti-gamergate sentiment originally and that deserves to not be disrespected in the comments because of some unrelated gripe you have with him that is founded on a logical farce, that's it
I’m not the person you originally responded to so hold your assumptions. The journalist who still actively works in this specific field a decade later, after becoming the subject of its ire is an objectively better choice. Don’t blame me for having the capacity to answer your question.
Sorry for assuming, I'd encourage you to check Anita's own opinion about speaking on gamergate though. She doesn't want to.
Wait, what? I was at an event where she spoke about it and she seemed comfortable enough speaking about it in that context. I guess feelings can change over the years, my mistake. Sincerely.
For sure, she is still a media critic in public (following intially going into hiding), and has talked about it numerous times. Her historic stance hasn't really changed though, I'd imagine at a certain point you'd just want to move on to something else, in her case to pivot toward speaking on female empowerment etc indirectly related topics. Pretty sure she's not done any gaming-specific media work for a number of years now.
I was wrong to make the proposed exercise such a zero-sum game though, I just mean to highlight how ridiculous the opposing position (that any article quoting Hasan for any reason is auto trash) is, in this particular case.
People can choose to not donate to him. Also he does plenty of fundraisers.
Grifting is a strong word for someone that is very well educated and doesn't just pick the mainstream position in every subject because it's easy.
The man does good work let him earn some money from it.
Scratch under the surface of this, you find angry, noisy white boys who think the woke and feminism are coming for them...
Careful! You're gonna rustle their jimmies... Oops looks like ya did, all these howler monkey replies lol.
Oooo! So scary! Angry white boys.... hahahahaha!! You can't be serious
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Gaming companies are coordinating with the FBI and Department of Homeland Security to root out so-called domestic violent extremist content, according to a new government report.
“The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have mechanisms to share and receive domestic violent extremism threat-related information with social media and gaming companies,” the GAO says.
“All I can think of is the awful track record of the FBI when it comes to identifying extremism,” Hasan Piker, a popular Twitch streamer who often streams while playing video games under the handle HasanAbi, says of the mechanisms.
The GAO’s investigation, which covers September 2022 to January 2024, was undertaken at the request of the House Homeland Security Committee, which asked the government auditor to examine domestic violent extremists’ use of gaming platforms and social media.
A 2019 internal intelligence assessment jointly produced by the FBI, DHS, the Joint Special Operations Command, and the National Counterterrorism Center and obtained by The Intercept warns that “violent extremists could exploit functionality of popular online gaming platforms and applications.” The assessment lists half a dozen U.S.-owned gaming platforms that it identifies as popular, including Blizzard Entertainment’s Battle.net, Fortnite, Playstation Xbox Live, Steam, and Roblox.
In 2019, ADL’s then-senior vice president of international affairs, Sharon Nazarian, was asked by Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., if gaming platforms “are monitored” and if there’s “a way AI can be employed to identify those sorts of conversations.”
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