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[–] [email protected] 238 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

How about we go back to the one where we applied a marginal tax rate of 90% to the rich?

[–] [email protected] 186 points 8 months ago (3 children)

And 30+% union membership

And houses that cost 4x median income

And shooting Nazis

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago

Y'all are describing my wet dreams. Keep going!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How can you be so cruel? Those poor widdle Nazis have feelings too, you know?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Mmmm, nice dream

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The modern rich are only rich on paper and in stock. For the rest they have debts that borrow against their stocks meaning they are still taxed at 0. This needs to be adressed as well then. Maybe by counting the cash out of such loans as realized gains or something.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

tax on unrealized gains based on the tax year those gains happen, same with losses.

Big win one year? awesome! pay taxes!

big loss next year? bummer! no taxes if you only lost money... but no carrying that shit over.

Imagine all that money which would have FLOODED the economy post-covid while people were poor as shit that would have wiped out the national debt which in no small part was from handouts to the 'welfare kings' with businesses that pocketed tons of free cash from dumpy's bailouts in covid times. Full circle could have been nice.

Instead we just get f'd.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The monkey's paw curls. Mark Robinson is transported back to the year 1900. Women can't vote. He is then promptly arrested and imprisoned for the crime of being a colored man in a whites-only establishment.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I sometimes think that the GOP is going out of their way to field the most bat-shit crazy field of candidates at all levels just to make Trump look sane by comparison.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah they're voters are just that mentally unfit and fascist.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nah, the voters at best are uneducated and bandwagoners led by cheap group emotional manipulation (which is much easier to do to someone lacking an education)

Remember everyone, we've gotta live with these people after Trump and Biden go to live on the farm. We don't have the numbers to simplistically oppress them (wouldn't work for long if we did), or the desire to wipe them out (which, why would we want to become them). So we better start prepping ourselves for continuing life as equal citizens with people who voted for Trump.

(Especially if we're ever gonna get enough people on board with turning against actual ruiling class UwU)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

It’s a thought. And I’m happy to engage once they admit out loud that they were wrong to support a demented rapist fraud for president who was clearly incompetent. And, who tried to overthrow democracy.

Say that, and we’re back to talking again. Don’t and, well, lolno.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, but bad people are bad. It doesn't matter how stupid they are if they're already making life worse for others for stupid reasons.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trump is too preoccupied with grifting to say all this crazy shit.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Could be. Wouldn't surprise me. Also possible the grifters are being replaced with true believers.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Ironically, aren't those the days where lynching was legal? Man, we have thee dumbest politicians.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago

My wife literally said, "He gets to lose his rights first. Then we will talk."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

*most craven

He's probably making 6 figures by saying these things. A lot of people decide to sell out their social grouping for hard cash, this Uncle Ruckus motherfucker is just doing it in public and in a little more blatant / attention grabbing fashion than usual.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I've read this guy also says African Americans should pay reparations to whites for bringing them to the Americas.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Fuck I hate having to defend these assholes but if we're going to call them out on their bullshit it needs to be accurate. The quote is slightly taken out of context because he was inexplicably trying to dodge a question that wasn't presented to him.

He is IMO trying to say I want to go back to the period of time when women couldn't vote because back then people actually fought for those rights. That's a dumbass circular argument but I don't think he is actually saying he thinks women shouldn't vote.

Hang the things they actually mean to say around their neck, not stupid slips of the tongue.

All that said - fuck this guy and fuck Huffington post for their shitty articles.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Fuck I hate having to defend these assholes but if we’re going to call them out on their bullshit it needs to be accurate. The quote is slightly taken out of context because he was inexplicably trying to dodge a question that wasn’t presented to him.

Take a look at the rest of the stuff he's been known for saying. From the article:

  • “The only thing worse than a woman who doesn’t know her place, is a man who doesn’t know his,” he wrote on Facebook in December 2017.
  • He also wrote, “I am REALLY sick of feminism and feminist. They are just as bad, if not worse, than racist.”
  • There’s plenty more to revisit with Robinson’s attacks on women, including calling them “whores,” “witches” and “rejected drag queens.”
  • There’s also his record of quoting Adolf Hitler, fanning Islamophobia, saying trans people should be arrested for using bathrooms, casting doubts on the Holocaust and spreading countless dangerous conspiracy theories.

Sure, he was trying to dodge a "gotcha" question, but his answer falls right in line with what he's been saying for years anyway. His statement is completely in line with his other stated beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

"The only thing worse than a woman who doesn’t know her place, is a man who doesn’t know his,” he wrote on Facebook in December 2017.

Perhaps I need to get my eyes checked, but.. Isn't he black? I shudder to think what a black man "knowing his place" in NC meant just a handful of years ago.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Isnt that around the same time black people were not allowed to do uuhhh well anything? Bit weird

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Better yet:

SOMEONE QUICK RETURN THIS MAN TO HIS OWNER.

See? Ya sound like a fuckin dick when ya say shit like that.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I wonder how he'd feel about walking it back further, to a time when black men also could not vote. Or maybe to a time when all blacks in this country were considered farm equipment. He sure likes to talk about how various groups of people should "know their place".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No, no, you see he has to be at the top so he can pull the ladder up behind him. That’s the whole point of being a Republican! You can’t make him go back to him being at the bottom with the poors and the women and, God forbid, the gays!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

What do you mean, I'm sure the 1920s were great for them! Oh wait maybe not

Maybe he was thinking of before that ... Yeah no I don't know, maybe he's thinking of a different "America?" Maybe South America has better history around then with regard to equality and peace in general. I'll, uh, leave that as an exercise to the reader 😅

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Mark, I don't think you want to do that as a black man.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Also, there wasn't any Internet service.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Bizarre? Republicans have been whining about women's suffrage for a long time now.

When women got the right to vote is when it all went down hill

-Rush Limbaugh, 2012

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

And people wonder why we call him Uncle Ruckus.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

There's nothing bizarre about this you bunch of shitty ass journalists. This type of bullshit has always been part and parcel of the Republican party.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've seen other clips of him. He is evil and anti-black with self-hate issues. The ideal GOP guy.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Careful how far back you go, buddy…….

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Buddy some want to go back to a time you couldn't either.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

He just needs a ponytail n a salmon shirt n hell straight up be uncle Ruckus.

No relation

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Robinson said he would definitely return to the days in America when women were denied the right to vote “because in those days we had people who fought for real social change, and they were called Republicans.”

Yes, because that was before the Republican party became enshittified by Goldwater’s Southern Strategy. Those same people who fought for social change back then would be Democrats now.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what his wife and other female relatives think of him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I've had female relatives mad when the churches they attended started letting women vote in church matters. So I'm guessing about like that. Self hate is such a warm little cocoon once you cut off the parts of yourself that it demands.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

He's black? Omg this guy can't see beyond his nose.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

“because in those days we had people who fought for real social change, and they were called Republicans.”

This room full of women was quiet as he spoke, though a faint “That’s right” could be heard when Robinson later said Republicans ended Jim Crow laws.

There's a non-outrage-inducing non-headline grabbing logic here that is him saying he wishes republicans were more liberal

It's very different from saying "I don't think women should be allowed to vote"

If the masses can't distinguish between these two concepts (they certainly cannot) then it is what it is. Pillory the guy, I don't give an F, I wouldn't have voted a republican in to a leadership position anyway due to the party's policies and issues that are systemic.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

“If blacks should stand up against racism, and women should stand up against sexism....shouldn’t men stand up against feminism?” he posted on Sept. 20, 2016.

That same day, he also wrote, “I am REALLY sick of feminism and feminist. They are just as bad, if not worse, than racist.”

There’s plenty more to revisit with Robinson’s attacks on women, including calling them “whores,” “witches” and “rejected drag queens.” There’s also his record of quoting Adolf Hitler, fanning Islamophobia, saying trans people should be arrested for using bathrooms, casting doubts on the Holocaust and spreading countless dangerous conspiracy theories.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I think the women of North Carolina should oblige him by specifically not voting…for him. Only him though.

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