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When a person curses, it's a direct indication that they are thinking on a lower, more reactive, more emotional level.


The site owner has another site with some pretty good linux/bash tutorials. Props where it's deserved.

Generally I don't like this kinda faux-intellectual and antagonistic writing. Reading this makes me pull out technical jargon or fancy words from my vocabulary like weeds. They use the term coomer which I haven't seen in years. They mentioned an undergrad in econ somewhere, maybe that's what give the boon of confidence?

Anyone else think they may have become sorta like this if things were different? I think that may have happened to me if I was less caring of others... and more hateful of others instead of hateful of myself (still working on that!)


Something interesting is the casual usage of psychology as an explanation, usually where the reason why someone or some people do a thing is because of a keen insight of the writer, where, what people self-report is untrue and what is inferred is true.

They also talk about conspiracy a ton for some reason.

The kinds of thinking really go all around, it really confuses me as how said folk manage to create a coherent understanding. The easy answer is maybe they don't, and I might be inclined to agree, I'd like to try and have a dialogue to see how their brains work.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago

Love that "lol fuck off" is a complete antithesis for this whole argument. And is also the correct amount of energy to expend on these fucking nerds

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Classism, classism always stays the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yup, those word are only spoken by the uneducated, the uncouth, the low borns. Fuck that shit.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If every other word out of someone’s mouth is a curse word, okay yeah that screams, making up for a limited vocabulary. But intentionally never cursing, you’re not big brained you’re an uptight dork.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Depends how they do it though. There are some very poetic uses of the repetitive "fuck"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah context is everything. The “fuck” scene from The Wire is nothing but “fuck” and it’s a brilliant scene.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I wonder what relative meanings in different cultures would be to this person. I bet he has a bias...

Mostly thinking of aus-delenda-est

Their complements are slurs here.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Someone give this dork a wedgie

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The kinds of thinking really go all around, it really confuses me as how said folk manage to create a coherent understanding

These types tend to think that statements like "cursing is giving in to animalistic instincts" are self evident truths of the universe - essentially claiming that only animals have emotional responses to anything, and that humans are special in their ability to view things impartially. These same people also get very defensive when you call them a fucking idiot, and then mad when you call out their "animalistic instincts".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Yea where do you draw the line.

Curses aren't all about strong emotions and all words about strong emotions aren't curses.

I'd love to hear the author square that you can't say anything that is a result of animalistic instincts and why its ok to tell somebody you love them.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I won't sit down to eat with someone who doesn't cuss.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I mean, I understand if it's their personal choice, but it's like someone who went through AA. I understand you can't drink, but I don't appreciate you sitting there in judgement of me of the two drinks I had at dinner after not having any alcohol for weeks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

White male imperial core labor aristocrat says tone it down. All Tone Police Are Bastards.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Doesn’t the logic of the ~~second~~ third screen cap on veganism apply to their logic on cursing? I’m not taking the easy route linguistically, ergo my verbal chasteness is a sign of my intellectual/moral superiority.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh, I re-read it multiple times and I'm not seeing it. I must be intellectually inferior.

Really though, uh could you help me understand what you meant?

blob-no-thoughts

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Crap I meant the third capture

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

what a piece of shit

I made the decision to totally cut obscenities out from my speech.

also:

t-slur

pick one tech bro

also bash tutorials are inherently conservative. embrace structured text, reject reactionary 40-year-old-shell fetishism

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

also bash tutorials are inherently conservative. embrace structured text, reject reactionary 40-year-old-shell fetishism

Finally someone gets it, we need more tutorials in the woke Fish shell instead of "how do I do if statements again in Bash" /j

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

what's structured text? I only know bash stuff...

a tutorial or something for a script kiddie would be nice

blob-no-thoughts

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Powershell uses a structured data pipeline, as does elvish and nushell and many others. I don't think fish does, it's trying to be mostly POSIX-compliant except where they don't agree with POSIX. I might be wrong about that it's been a long time since I used fish.

Feel free to keep reading my ramblings but the landing pages for both elvish and nushell that I linked above illustrate the power of structured data pipelines, in particular nushell:

Accomplishing something like this with a flat text pipeline like bash would be much longer and far less readable.

POSIX-compliant shells use plain text in their pipeline, which means that any output you pipe from one command to the next has to be done so in either plain text or a format the consuming command can process. What that means in practice is that unless the consuming command has been designed specifically to consume the output from the preceding command in the pipe, users have to do a lot of string manipulation with tools like awk, sed, or grep to structure the output from one command into a format that can be consumed by the next.

Where it really shines is when interacting with APIs that expect to use structured data in their interfaces, as you can just pipe data from one to the next without worrying about restructuring it. It's why PowerShell was created--unlike POSIX-compliant OSes, Windows is built on the component object model, and every API built into the OS already used structured data.

The web is built on structured data (json, xml) as well, and that lucky coincidence made powershell a much more useful shell for over-the-wire API interaction than bash et al.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

oh whaaaat! this is so cool, i have not seem any of this before. reminds me of plan9 videos i was watching, dreaming of what could have been...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I always thought the explanation of exploitation was precise, working from Engel's explanation of primitive communism with a historical understanding really clarifies things.

Slavery is definitely clear, not sure where that one came from. You got serfs, chattel slavery, domestic servitude, uhh others... look the US State Dept website has an explainer on modern slavery, if the historical stuff is a bit confusing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

No one is going to fire a plumber because he says [transphobia]

I-was-saying

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh my god is luke smith still fucking chugging? lol, lmao

I remember this guy from back in the earlier days of linux and linux gaming related media. When gamingonlinux was just taking off, linux gamecastweekly had been rolling for a bit, brian lunduke hadn't shown his entire ass to everyone. I could smell /g/ stained libertarian bullshit coming off this guy from miles away. Last I heard he had fucked off into the woods trying to do some kind of trad retvrn shit.

If you're into linux and free software it's either full on commie transgender free everything and everyone destroy capitalism, or just the most insane libertarian shitheads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

no, you're forgetting templeos, although maybe the only one of us who could do it is gone...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

"Shit's fucked" - Plato

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Fuck that shit

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reading this guy's insufferable blog and was reminded of a greentext I saw years ago and saved, it sums up so many of these dudes:

Be highschooler

Sit every day playing vidya and doing homework in suburban two story

Never go out because no friends

Never have interesting experiences

Girl I like won't look at me because I'm a silent, boring, slender starchman with no personality

People who do drugs and have sex are more personable and appealing

Nurse hatred of peers

Become trad christian larper

Read hours of old, tired punditry from the 90s denouncing anything pleasurable

Spend every other hour shitflinging online as a caricature of naive, unironic puritanism

Know my views are ridiculous but I'm lashing out at people for not paying attention to me anyway

Refuse to broaden my horizons or do anything that my beguile someone to have an interest in me

Double down on trying to make an identity out of being a gelded, passionless clown

Die a sad virgin convinced cultivating the kind of empty moral superiority that was a cartoonish mockery of real people to begin with

Many such cases

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

wow it is sorta accurate for quite a few folks I've engaged with.

does "starchman" mean anti-cracker-aktion

I never saw that word before, if it is I'm surprised at the self-awareness

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

the author was mocking tradcath types, starchman I think just means stiff or rigid like starchy clothes

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

No fun allowed, it means you aren't intelligent maybe-later-kiddo

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I swear a lot of the time because I'm fucking angry. It helps me vent and it helps keep my sentences simpler. People understand that most of not all of my rage is at situations in the news or not in the news but should be. If I write "I swear a lot of the time because I'm angry..." - it could cause confusion. I could be talking about my personal life.

I do admit it's a cheapie way to make jokes too.

There might be times when it's proper for someone to react in righteous anger, but those are in reality so rare as to only happen in life-and-death situations.

I get the sense this guy doesn't have much empathy. If your eyes are open to the world - "so rare" entirely wrong. Not only that - situations can come up every darn day.

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Ninja edit

I googled him.

Who is Luke Smith and why I'm seeing him everywhere? : linuxmasterrace

A comment I noticed. I have no context so I don't have any idea how accurate/inaccurate it is...

A hateful religious nut-job that occasionally makes a Linux video, then asks you for a donation to himself for introducing you to someone else's work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I think that's exactly why certain words are considered obscene or inappropriate- to tone police and shutdown righteous anger. It forces us to stifle the rage we feel towards the bullshit around us in response, as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

"someone else's work" <- this out into words really well the way I think of him, thanks for the share

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Right I'm sorry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I find a well placed obscenity to be like a bite of pineapple on the pizza actually

Ex: A well-placed obscenity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Was hoping for PPB, disappointing.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ah, the old "I am a perfect emotionless vulcan, unlike the person i'm arguing with"

I will continue to use obscenities as I please as a show of disdain for social mores and norms

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'll bet this guy just loves Deadwood.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

what a fucking nerd

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I can understand the desire to not use obscenities personally, but nobody likes that guy that got sober and still comes to the party and tries to convince everyone there that they should too.

People have completely lost the ability to realize that other people have different lives and opinions. I wonder if it's because an amount of people have fascist views and people have compartmentalized their worldview as a reaction to others having objectively shitty views. This isn't that though. This is like some people not liking honey mustard and then going on a crusade against something so meaningless

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Fucky fuck poop shit turd dummy dumbhead taint sniffing poopy cum cum cum cum coom gooner cum farting pooper cracker dumb stupid iduot moron fuck fuxk fuxk fuck ass poop !

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I swear pretty openly, although I do try to keep it limited to certain situations. This isn't because I think swearing is bad, but because I realize that it increases the punch of the swear if it's by itself and not surrounded on all sides by similar words.

the casual usage of psychology as an explanation

If there's been a through-line in my adult life, it's that everything I learned in Psych 101 has turned out to be completely wrong. Maybe it's my fault for misremembering everything, but I aced that course so I feel like it's more likely it was the material that was wrong.

Anyway I share your feeling that if things had turned out a bit different I would totally be one of these guys. Getting into socialism has made me be a better person by pushing me to be critical of my own reactionary impulses, which I used to dress up in semiscientific language based on completely wrong things I learned at some point or another.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I wonder, I had friends take econ and they would make sweeping statements about people's behavior, they'd also mention microecon, maybe a bit of it comes from there?

AHHH, I had a 'devil's advocate/contrarian' phase I cannot think about it without bending over cringing

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