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The insane windows hate on Lemmy is actually pushing me away from wanting to try Linux. Some of you are insufferable, like your entire personality is that you use Linux.
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I use windows 11 and I donโt see what all the hate is for. Maybe itโs cuz I use Pro, and click a couple of buttons to hide the โnewsโโฆ but it seems perfectly fine to me.
And Iโm a power user, with Linux experience.
Telemetry and many more unsatisying solutions and issues on Windows.
The AMD GPU drivers just sometimes dont detect my monitor.
I cant change between headphones and speakers except when I install some weird drivers for my soundcard.
Updates... every application needs to be running and eating cpu to check individually for updates, even when not used.
Installing dependencies, lirbaries or applications... either figure out how to compile things and manually set paths everywhere or find the right exe in the big web.
No other desktop with different features. Lacking desktop features that slowly get copied from linux to Windows like PowerTools and other things, but still doesn't have everything. Most desktop tools and eye candy just dont work after a few windows update and tend to break. Many more issues when you just use apps that use the buggy Windows API.
Changing internal things need to be mostly done with regedit. Least user friendliest solution.
But thats whats bothering me on Windows. I use Windows 11 with Ameliorated to play VR games. The rest is unsatisfying and nonsense to do on Windows as Linux has a much greater overall Desktop experience with KDE or Gnome depending on your preference. Much more automation with packages and syncing.
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ok power user. Iโm sure you love all the extra steps it takes to do basic admin functions that used to be one click in 10. Iโm sure you love the forced updates and constant addition of edge and search bars to your desktop. Iโm sure you love all the privacy invasion and ads shoved into every corner of the OS.
Idk, maybe itโs cuz Iโm on the same windows install Iโve been on for a few years, but there are things I dislike, but Iโve changed them, long ago. And occasionally I have to disable another taskbar thing, or wellโฆ thatโs basically it.
The privacy element is legit, and I do what I can to reduce the amount of tracking they can do. But I game, I play games that donโt run on Linux. Well, the anti cheat doesnโt run on Linux. I check back frequently, because I do see the appeal of Linux. But windows just isnโt as bad (for me) as people make it out to be, and definitely not enough to deal with dual booting or virtualizing windows to maintain access to the games I play most.
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Same. I know my way around Linux but game enough that switching isn't super practical.
I haven't had issues with Windows for years except for one install or upgrade that went sideways one way or another, but I keep backups so ๐คท. I've never found killing telemetry and nixing features I don't want to be any more tedious than doing stuff in Linux. Oh no there's a few extra clicks in the click fest of setting up a new os install to how I like it whaattt will I ever dooooooooo.
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I said this exact same thing a few months ago and was downvoted to oblivion lol
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It's fucking unreal how many of them froth at the mouth about Linux. Like, fuck off.
By the way, I actually endorse Linux for limited uses. I'm just realistic about it... It's simply not a solution for everything.
I highly doubt that if you were given the actual choice you'd pick the one that could permanently dammage your eyes over using an annoying operating system.
This is just stupid.
This guy is fun at parties!
Orally administered hot sauce is a temporary pain.
An unnecessary, half finished OS replacing a perfectly fine one just to save serve you adds is not.
They said oral everyone.
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I'm pretty convinced that that won't permanently damage your eyes, I don't think it's acidic enough.
Only one way to find out
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Things I'd rather read than linux vs windows memes:
I've done this. Do not recommend.
*I was extremely drunk on tequila at the time and it was on a dare
I'm forced to use Win 11 at work, for sEcUrItY.
But I'm actually working within a full-screen Debian VM on HyperV until someone with authority tells me to knock it off.
Windows 11 is great. I finally upgraded a month ago. No regrets. Several good handy new features.
Not happy that they'll eventually shove ads down my throat at which time I'm fully prepared to switch to Linux. Until then, at least at this point, Windows 11 > Windows 10.
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The update has been queued for about a month on my work computer. No. I wonโt do it.
Not nearly awful as using a Mac though.
Ahh yes. Typical Windows bad, linux good meme. When questioned why linux is better, the answer will be beating around the bush sort of it's worth the months of tweaking to get the WiFi adapter to work. And it's quite embarrassing to see all these guys who post abominations like this without knowing anything about debloating Windows and stripping the installation to make a perfect install without Microsoft bullshit. If Linux works for you, Good for you. If Windows works for you, Good for you. Get over it. This is cringe at this point.
I just started my switch to Linux and the only things that don't work out of the box on my brand new Lenovo laptop are things that have no bearing on the actual use of the device. And frankly, spending hours fiddling to make things work is much more satisfying than spending hours trying to figure out how to stop Microsoft spying on me.
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I have never had any issues getting WLAN, sound, USB or anything to work if i didn't build on minimal Arch or something super nerdy.
Ubuntu, Debian, Pop!, Mint, all work perfectly well in these regards. Only thing you usually have to do something is for gaming. But even that has become very easy by installing wine and proton. Steam even lets you set force compatibility modes for every game.
Debloating or preparing a clean Windows installation is more of a hassle and requires far more skill and research than setting up a working Linux system. Let alone the growing effort Microsoft puts into forcing users into Microsoft Accounts.
If Linux works for you, Good for you. If Windows works for you, Good for you.
I agree to that, but man, "Linux is too hard to set up" is straight up BS nowadays. And Microsoft and Windows do have many issues that need to be pointed out and criticized.
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You're right, no one cares what other people use, but comparing a debloated Windows install with a proper Linux install is just dumb. A debloated Windows install will never be "perfect" or exist without Microsoft bullshit it literally depends on most of it. And I'm not bashing debloating of Windows here. It's a fair choice if you have to use Windows and want a bit more of a lightweight experience. Personally I use Linux to use more FOSS software, tiling window managers and having in general a better idea of how my system works. And yes you're right that that's not for everyone but all I'm saying is that there should be an option besides amputating a shitty anti-consumer OS. At this point people are comfortable using a borked version of an OS whose main business strategy has become collection of personal data.
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Haven't had trouble with wifi on Linux in like 12 years.
Bluetooth on the other hand...
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Wow!! Thanks! I will try to debloat windows now and then replace all linux installations of mine with your suggestion. Which filesystem should I use to support paths > 256 characters on Windows?
Also: How can I bind my favorite Applications to my usual shortcuts? Never found that option in the settings.
Over the last few years I've installed various flavors of Linux on 4 random machines of different types. Haven't had trouble with WiFi on any of them. I've barely used windows and had piles of trouble with it just about every time.
Cry about the post I guess?
5ghz wifi not working is a known problem. I had the same issue with multiple distros on a hp laptop. But i installed windows 11 and everything worked perfectly, even the trackpad for some reason felt better than in linux. Everything was taken care by windows updates.
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Surprised to see so many defending windows 11 here! The ad insertion all throughout the system is SO bad, but what they've done to the right-click (context?) Menu was the last straw. Like, most options are hidden underneath the stupid inflated touch-friendly list. Give me a button to disable it (that isn't in the registry), at least!
The final straw for me though was my VR just quit one day - but I could dual boot back to windows 10 and it was fine somehow ๐คทโโ๏ธ did a bunch of tricks to get it working to no avail, so I scrapped the windows 11 demo partition and finally gave Linux a try.
VR definitely isn't ready on Linux (if you're stuck with an nvidia card like I am, for now) - but considering the OS is built on FOSS and its this feature rich and stable??? Never going back.
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