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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (37 children)

But you can make cheese out of it and cheese is life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Cheese is death

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know you've succeeded with a truly unpopular opinion when you get more downvotes on Unpopular Opinion while no one is complaining that it is a popular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Diets are pretty intrinsic to how people live. This is the equivalent of an edgey atheist teenager shitting on Christianity as an unpopular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Down playing your choice to kill as a diet is pretty dystopian

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is an interesting picture you are painting and true, it is probably how most people would see it.

However, your comparison with religion is a little bit off. Engaging in religion is (and should be) a personal choice that is just including you - i.e. it should not force or be forced by others.

But by choosing to consume animal products, you don't just choose something for yourself - you are forcing someone else into pain and ultimately death.

That is the reason why "vegans are so annoying". We don't give a crap about what YOU do - but we want to stand in for the victims that can't make themselves be heard. I hope this makes it easier to understand our motives and why we feel the moral obligation to act on them.

Have a good one!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I could lay out an argument that supporting religion means you support slavery and crusades.

I'm not going to engage your false utopia. Human brains literally developed from agriculture and cattle farming. Reality is meat consumption is a need for the majority of the planet and beyond an individual consumers' responsibility to solve.

You choose to live on each day despite knowing you will consume and pollute inherently, yet seek to criticize the choices of others?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Are you suggesting we start keeping human women on farms to milk them? Do you really want to go to the store and buy a bottle of breast milk to pour over your cereal?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I have nipples. Will you milk me?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ethics tip: If something feels pretty fucked up when doing it to a human it’s probably safe to assume you shouldn’t do that to a non-human animal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yo what that was your first thought instead of rice milk, oat milk, coconut milk, almond milk or just not eating cereal. You are a big boy, you'll be alright without baby milk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Soy milk is better alternative. If you don't like the taste, try coconut milk, oat milk, almond milk, cashew milk, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If I use milk in anything it's usually oat milk, but I still like things like cheese and ice cream sometimes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

There are vegan versions of those too, they're just less common.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ice cream alternatives are actually really good now.

Fake cheese is still foul.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sometimes I get the coconut milk ice cream. It tastes good but it's definitely not the same, so I go back and forth

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A truly unpopular opinion, congratulations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

And at some point in the future, it will be truly popular! 😁

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Cows, like we have bred, should not exist in the first place. Its a cruelty to have such big udders and while cows can live up to 15 years most milk cows will live to the age of 5-6 because they are used like bio-machines, getting bred and sucked dry all through their short, miserable lives. "But dairy cows can be happy". Sure man, just like the people in the mines and sweatshops...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The lactose intolerant agree with you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It's too late!

*sound of black hole sucking you up*

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Lactaid brand milk work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Factory farming sucks and should be abolished.

That being said, in ancient times they gave us milk and we gave them grain during winter. Contracts can always be revisited, but don't act like this was entirely one sided.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That’s pretty elegant.

I’m stealing it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Lol @ all the downvotes raining in this thread. If it weren’t normalised the way it is right now, and some wacko would introduce it today, people would be disgusted and outraged. Just like with dog meat in China and South Korea, that one dish with a grown chicken embryo called (from the top of my head) Balut, and fermented herring as they eat in the nordics.
People just don’t like to have facts shoved in their faces that make them think. Think about how something they’ve grown up to see as normal, might not be normal after all. The logical emotion from that is outrage, dragging your heels, etc.

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