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[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not the US government, republicans and one random house dem that seems to hate technology.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

oMg boTh sIdeS aRe nOt tHe sAmE.... except for when it comes to eroding freedoms

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the US government, republicans and one random house dem that seems to hate technology.

Whose the Dem?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

What about the other 20?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

WTF then he isn't a Democrat if he co authoring bills with Graham.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Somehow it never crossed their minds to stop selling firearms to teens, but vendor Internet in the name of protecting kids? Sign us up. Fuck that.

Pretty much any bill, worldwide, that includes the phrase "project kids" is always about pushing censorship, government surveillance and other forms of oppression on everyone. And guess what: zero actual benefit to kids.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is quite scary. I don't know if it being on the calendar means they're guaranteed to vote on it but the text of the bill would completely fuck the Fediverse. You literally need paid personnel to comply with these regulations.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3663/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Host somewhere else. They're not the world police.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I guess we'll just become criminals and host our servers in countries that actually respect freedom.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why old men are so obsessed with kids? Are they pedo or something?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

It's never about kids. If they gave half a fuck about kids, we'd have free school lunches and teachers would be paid a fair salary.

So long as the internet is around to distribute fact-checks and officer-involved homicide videos they have no plausible lies by which the 80% of us in poverty or precarity should tolerate the abuse of plutocrats and capitalists.

So this is a first amendment issue: it's about suppression of political speech. It always was 🌍 👩‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀 🌑

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They're a convenient scapegoat. You can accuse the other side of not caring about/endangering children for political points, and children don't have politically-relevant opinions, or votes, so you're never going to have children speaking up and going "that's not correct", or protesting against you for a law you've passed. If they do end up protesting, you can point fingers at the parents and say that they're indoctrinating the children.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

every time they say it's to "protect the children" or "protect freedom" it is invariably neither.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Fine, so who will be judging if there's a depressive content on the internet, a psychologist? Also how about non-US sites, will they be banned or something?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Perhaps politicians should concentrate on making it so there's less depressing stuff in the world for anyone to see and hear, and not creating more of it with things like this rubbish bill. 🤷‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Culturally we're going back to the Middle Ages...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Specifically the Dark Ages.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Isn't this also the bill that could screw up encryption too?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

woah no way

in other news, every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Knowing Biden he's all in on this, he signed off on the Patriot Act too so f*** him

neoliberals are just as bad as Republicans

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Neoliberals are conservatives. They go on the same smoldering pile.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The United States is also a one-party state, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." - Julius Nyerere

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My god that's brilliant!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

it has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with destroying privacy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why is it always the worst laws proposed under the guise of protecting children

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Because you can't argue that. Any other ground reason for policy can be challenged or counterargued or relies on values which are arguable.

No one is going to plainly argue "ok but how about we do not protect children?". And if someone tries a different angle such as "this law is not really going to protect anyone and will bring a lot of problems for children and adults alike" it will be easily dismissed as "you insidious snake, why do you want to hurt children?! Don't sabotage child protection!". Which autokills conversation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it something that China has been doing for a while? In their version, it's called 'spreading positive energy'.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's almost like everything the US said about China was just a projection of their own insecurities.

It might get to a point where China actually is relatively more liberating than "stable democracies" in internet access.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

What else is new?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This doesn't seem different from what many if not most major platforms are already doing voluntarily. Just replace the word "depressing" with the word "toxic" and suddenly everyone will support this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protect kids from guns would be better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Jack O'Neil's son would still be alive today if he didn't get a hold of his father's gun. But then we wouldn't have Stargate. It's sort of a toss up to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This headline could have been written 20 years ago.

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