this post was submitted on 01 Mar 2024
495 points (97.0% liked)

Linux Gaming

15250 readers
110 users here now

Discussions and news about gaming on the GNU/Linux family of operating systems (including the Steam Deck). Potentially a $HOME away from home for disgruntled /r/linux_gaming denizens of the redditarian demesne.

This page can be subscribed to via RSS.

Original /r/linux_gaming pengwing by uoou.

Resources

WWW:

Discord:

IRC:

Matrix:

Telegram:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (6 children)

And it was at 2.92% in Oct 23, so that's approx 38% increase in 4 months! If we keep this level of growth for a year, we're looking at 7.67% marketshare in a year from now!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's fantastic and I hope it happens. I really want to go back to Linux for gaming but because of specific applications I cannot.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat, but all the Win11 drama finally forced me to transition over. Now all my work specific applications run in a Windows 10 VM. I leave it running in the backround. I used one of the debloat PowerShell scripts, killed most of the background bullshit. All my windows apps are on it, it's the best of both worlds. It doesn't affect the performance of my machine at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I tried to game on Linux. It works great in 99% of cases. I loved cyberpunk just as much as on windows. I'm just part of that 1% who need face tracking and some other software.

I do run opensuse on my laptop however. Such uses it is perfect for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by face tracking? Never heard of that. What applications use it? Genuinely curious.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Mostly simulators. Tracks your face by various means, webcam, IR, etc. When your head moves your camera moves.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Well windows is getting worse and worse while Linux is better and better

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What if its exponential growth?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

What if its exponential growth?

Then we should expect that in ~35 years, 200% of users will be using desktop linux.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

The math chec.....wait, no. That math doesn't check out at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

It is an older math, Sir. I was going to let them pass.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Did this factor out the steam deck Linux, though? It being included if going to falsely skew the numbers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Does it, though? Those are portable linux desktops, that are in active semi-daily use just like anything else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I have one. I love it. It's 95% just a game system. No one buys one because they want to use a Linux os.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There will be dozens of you! Dozens!!!

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

I believe I said it in a different post but 2023 was the year of the Linux desktop. Hardware like Bluetooth and webcams just work. Applications and games have gotten so much easier install thanks to Flatpak and Steam.

Now Plasma 6 is upon us. HDR could be supported this year. At this point avoid Linux only if it's missing a specific app you need.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like Linux, and I don't plan to use anything else, but yesterday my internet broke because swapping the GPU changed the name of the network interface

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is pretty annoying. I'm thinking of buying a new GPU myself. My Internet also runs off PCIE so I could go through the same thing as well? I wish I had another GPU to try this out.

I did look it up, it seems to come from the way BIOS names resources. Im surprised software such as Network Manager does not pick up on stuff like this.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/744194/why-does-my-network-interfaces-name-change-when-i-plug-a-different-pcie-device

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It certainly could happen. You won't have a problem, either NM will figure it out or you can easy change the network manually. It's just that Linux is inaccessible to a typical person until stuff like that doesn't happen:

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This site is really unrealiable. It is based on browser's user agent. It has spikes like this regurally and always Linux community talks about it.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that "unknown" is suspiciously rising with linux, so the number might be higher

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And yet still below the "unknown" OS? What the heck is this "unknown" OS that fares better than Linux?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Year of the Unknown Desktop

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

year of the TempleOS

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Our tracking code is installed on more than 1.5 million sites globally. These sites cover various activities and geographic locations. Every month, we record billions of page views to these sites.

They uses website trackers to compute the data, which is not a reliable way to count linux market share. A large percentage of linux user are privacy conscious, and tend to mess with tracking scripts.

Here are some potential inaccuracy in tracking:

  • Good amount of unknown is probably people with tracker blocker, which blocked part of their tracking scripts. Or send confusing information to the tracker.
  • There are probably some Linux Machine shows up as Windows machine, since many browser pretend to run on windows to avoid fingerprinting.
  • Finally, the linux number itself might be overblown, as many browser has randomized fingerprint to prevent tracking, making them being tracked as different user.
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Desktop linux has become great since I first tried installing it in 2002. I remember being in my barracks and I had to switch back to windows because I had no way to get the modem drivers I needed.

As amazing as the linux desktop experience has become, windows has really done this to itself. The windows experience 10 years ago was 'fine'. Like it wasn't amazing, it could be improved upon, but it did what it needed to do without bothering the user much.

Windows the OS has lost the thread completely. Its a travesty. I no longer recommend for non-power users to build their own PC (I've helped several family members who were going down the "I want a powerful computer, should I buy a mac?" direction and would steer them to build-a-pc+windows) strictly because Windows has become something entirely different than an operating system. Unfortunately, no Linux desktop experience is quite to the point where I could recommend it and not-expect to get a constant barrage of calls from a family member when they need to install a basic piece of software or their blue tooth headphones wont connect. Because of what Windows has decided to become, after decades of being anti-mac because of their 'ecosystem'/ anti-collaborative approach, I've turned a corner and now recommend Macs for non-power users, but linux for every one else.

This increase in popularity has the potential to create a sea-change in that regard, especially if we can get people to support (financially) the teams that are putting these distros together. I really need a linux distro to recommend that won't get me calls where I have to hop in and figure out why an nvidia driver that was working suddenly stopped working, what the hell is blueman doing, issues with audio drivers, issues with software compatibility.

Like I cant reasonably put my MIL on a linux laptop that I put together for her and expect her to have a good experience. So she gets a mac. But my nieces and nephews? No they are starting linux from day 0.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My non-tech literate aunt has been running her Ebay business from a laptop running Fedora with unattended upgrades for 3 years now. She manages her expenses in Libreoffice calc and accesses everything else through Chrome and prints labels on an old USB HP printer. I don't think she's even noticed I switched her over from Windows 10 when her machine was getting slow.

My Dad's laptop is also on Fedora (though he mainly just uses an Android tablet these days) and I intend to install it on my Grandma's PC when Windows 10 stops being supported. So for the people who'd be happy with something like a Chromebook, which is a good chunk of older folks, it's perfect and I can easily provide support.

That being said if I had to deal with helping kids who wanted to game and use Bluetooth bits and pieces surrounded by RGB crap then yea outside of a few well supported options it could be a nightmare depending on what they've got.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While I get the β€žwindows badβ€œ point, linux works for your mother in law a lot better than for you because point and click has always worked well for linux from the reports I read. Please do not steer the tech illiterate to apple. It is dumbed down exactly to attract these figures. If you install a stable distro and dont go with need newest everything that linux elitists spew around, youβ€˜re golden. System76 and Tuxedo Computers are the way to go as far as I can see atm. They even have their consumer ready builds of linux.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I've had two System76's. Neither was a fricitonless experience. Its MUCH better than it used to be. But its not frictionless. I

If you arent committed to doing your own tech support, and lots of it, don't expect things to go smoothly. They are way better than boutique linux distros, but by no means are they perfect.

We shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking something is some way when it isn't, just because we wish it was. The Linux desktop experience is 100x smoother than it was 25 years ago. The Linux desktop experience this year is 10x better than it was 10 years ago. But its still not quite there yet. Its not frictionless. It doesn't 'just work', when people need to use software like MS office or teams. If I put someone on Linux who isn't committed to the work it takes to run Linux (and it takes work; its easier than ever, but it takes work), I've just created an 'anti-linux' user; some one who will never be convinced to convert because they had a negative experience. One bad experience is all it takes to turn someone off for life. If my goal is to convert as many people as possible to Linux, I'm better off stratifying the users into those I can convert now, and those I may have to wait another 2-5 years for Linux to 'get there' in terms of a frictionless experience.

I think desktop linux will get there, but its important to be realistic about where its at.

load more comments (9 replies)
load more comments (11 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I've had a Linux desktop since 2003, over 20 years now. 20 years of facepalm after facepalm every time I saw people get fucked by a windows machine.

Go Linux!

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

LETS FUCKING GOOO

As a sidenote, I bought a whole new SSD and I plan to switch from windows 10 to ubuntu (yeah I know) when I have more stability in my life. At the moment I don't want more changes in my life because I have a lot going, but it's coming

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The haters will tell you Ubuntu sucks. Every distro has pros and cons. Use whatever you feel comfortable with, and if you feel like trying something else, do it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I recommend pop_os! My life is so much better after abandoning Windows for pop_os.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Ubuntu is great, but please consider linux mint and PoP_OS too. You may find them more appealing than ubuntu.

Both are ubuntu based anyway, so you wont be missing anything good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

ignore anybody giving you grief about whatever distro you use - people need to realise that gatekeeping an OS over minor UI experiences is a dumb fight that discourages normal users getting involved. Whether ubuntu is your gateway into other linux, or the system you end up using for 10 years - you do you, whatever is working is fine. In any case, ubuntu today is much better than it was even 5 years ago - like the comments on this thread say, things just work. You'll still probably have to use terminal more than you should, but linux is becoming very usable for everybody.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP!!!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Dumb questions maybe. But I mostly keep Windows for like Battle.net games. Is there any way to play Overwatch II or Diablo IV in Linux? With proton or any other way? Legit would tip me into that realm. I’m a Debian fan if that matters. But I’m comfortable in other distros. Except Arch πŸ˜†

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lutris.

It works out of the box with no configuration whatsoever, I'm actually playing StarCraft 2 as I write this and I'll alt-tab now bye

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Battle.net games have been some of the most reliable non-steam games you'll find. You'll have trouble in the Riot Games space (League on Linux, Windows 7, and 8 are all dead in the next month due to Vanguard), and some Epic Games (Fortnite), but if you're a Battle.net/Steam gamer Linux is ready for you.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

choo choo motherfuckers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wtf is unknown? What, are they implying that people made their own OS? If the unknown is due to those pc not reporting what OS they have, well that's most definitely Linux because Windows user tend to not care that much about privacy and Apple people tend to kiss Apple ass no matter what so they will not try to ofuscat their OS for privacy as for them having an mac or whatever is something they want to show off!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I was running Bazzite for several months before I switched back to Windows. Unfortunately for me I have a broadcom wifi adapter, it kept disconnecting every 10-15 minutes, and that doesn't bode well for gaming. Outside of that I really enjoyed using it! At least my steamdeck counts towards usage of Linux...

Edit: also steam having to download pre-cached shaders almost every time I started up my computer was kind of annoying. I know you can disable that, but then you're leaving performance on the table iirc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know you can buy a USB wifi adapter and still use Linux or at least double boot.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Awesome news. I plan to make the full switch to Linux next week. League of Legends is the only reason I use Windows. Next week, they are adding Vanguard, and that'll make it impossible to play on Windows.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next β€Ί