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[–] [email protected] 284 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

AND he only did so after the "proper channel" for whistle blowing, his internal superiors, told him to shut the fuck up.

I feel this always needs to be said. The United States has a lot of slogans and posters about integrity and ethics for a nation that has neither in practice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2014/03/07/snowden-i-raised-nsa-concerns-internally-over-10-times-before-going-rogue/

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” ― Anatole France

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

dhs

Well that makes more sense than the Obama admin coming up with it

Bout to say, I could have sworn I was hearing that well before Obama was president. That's a Bush admin slogan, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think they had that phrase on WWII propaganda posters as well. More to do with potential espionage of enemy countries, though.

Edit: totally wrong, it was coined on Sept 12, 2001 by New York advertising executive Allen Kay.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Thanks for reiterating this and posting a source. Every time I see an article on Snowden year over year, someone brings up the tired old "argument" that because he is now trapped in Russia, that somehow makes everything he did "wrong", and invalidates everything he exposed the government for doing. The media campaign against him was apparently quite effective, and these soundbites are ever ready to jump out of people's mouths without any research or critical thinking.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Snowden is a textbook example of why organizations should not be allowed to police themselves or control the avenues of reporting misconduct.

There should be a memorial to him in DC. Ruined his life to tell the people what their elected officials are doing with all of the power we grant them.

But no, to save face, ego, etc we drove him into the willing arms of Putin to be able to use as a propaganda tool so he wouldn’t be killed for daring to speak truth to power.

Support for prosecuting him did untold damage to my opinion of Obama.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

And the hundreds of drone strikes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Same. Honestly, fuck Obama. He's not as bad as Trump, but he's still a corporate Democrat shill.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Meme aside, I'm commenting to show appreciation for the correct use of quotation marks. Grammar nazi stamp of approval.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Grammar nazi stamp of approval."

This is a sentence fragment.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“If you see something suspicious “speak up” is correct usage?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the information but jeez that makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's like the unclosed paren (but correct (craziness).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This hurts my programmer soul, I'll start escaping quotation marks instead

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being a programmer finally won out over my writing background. For example, I know the rule in the US is to include punctuation inside the quotation marks, but I just can't do it anymore if the punctuation mark is not actually part of the quote. "The British do it right, in my opinion".

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Ah, the old HR trap.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope one day he will be able to come home a hero and not a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s no chance he’ll be allowed back in the US after, understandably, becoming a piece of the Russian propaganda pie. He’s basically trapped in Russia. On the bright side, it’s a gilded cage where he resides with his family.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not where I'd want to be right now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia is great, for people useful to Putin.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not even an impossible task. We just need a President that actually loves what America professes to aspire to. It's what the Presidential pardon is for.

Any decade now...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Not like that! Do it how we meant to say but couldn't quite bring ourselves to say publicly. The way that protects the military industrial complex and the corporations and the lobbyists and the government officials from any charge of mendacious greed.

My favourite moment of that era was when Obama told us he was just about to drop dime on all the spying and Snowden beat him to it. Dang it Snowden, now I gotta eat shit on live TV. The American state simply cannot be trusted whatsoever.

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