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its actually more like 5-7 books

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (3 children)

and its still the best video game ever made

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is Outer Wilds erasure

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Another game I’ve suggested to literally anyone I can. I’m glad I played it with another friend without an attention disorder bc otherwise I would’ve dropped it like 10 times over in frustration, and it ended up being my favorite game in a really long time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So does it have a solid ending? I've never played it, hearing that they were working on a sequel for so long, and now that's been canceled.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

hm, I was kind of disappointed at first, but over time I realised the ending I got, which was the main one (there are many endings I think), made perfect sense for harry as a character and for the story as a whole. Its a very sweet story with some very bitter moments, I dont think any media made me cry before I played this game. Its genuinely life changing, youre not the same person when the credits roll, I place it up there with Dune.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Depends on what you're looking for in an ending. It's not a cliffhanger or anything that makes a sequel necessary. Your mileage may vary on how satisfying you find the ending, but a lack of traditional narrative satisfaction is for sure an intentional artistic choice. It's thematically appropriate to leave you feeling a bit shitty at the end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hallmark of good fiction is that it leaves you feeling something really strongly. If one wants a tidy “satisfying” ending any random genre fiction will generally suffice, but to expect it as something necessary is silly. Not to say that untidy endings are always good, you’ll find a million art house films that overreach and end in the middle of nowhere, but if it’s done right it’s usually very poignant. After all, if fiction is imitating life why should there be a nice wrap up? That’s definitely not how life is

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

It's a satisfying piece of art, and that's what matters. I totally agree. Disco Elysium should be held on the levels of Moby Dick artistically. By all rights it should be in contention as a literary classic, it's just not a book

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Pre-voice-acting (C|J)RPGs were basically visual novels with some fighting between the pages. DE is among a respectable and noble class.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I swear capitalism has brainwashed people into hating reading.

I blame adverising.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Advertising and social media (see advertising)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I tell people it's my favorite game, but I do warn them that it is basically an interactive book.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Ine of the most beautifully narrated audio books ever made

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Gamers WILL play the communist game, they WILL read the fancy words, they WILL do introspection :dig-the-fucking-coal: (why is this not an emoji yet?!)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

This is more than a video game to me, it changed the way I view the world.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Reading never hurts, it has pictures too at least, an upgrade over those text rogue likes I'd play as a broke child.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

I appreciate how sad that little guy is at being handed a book

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Jokes on you G*mers! I fucking LOVE books!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It would've been better as a full-on visual novel imo, it's probably the best written game I've ever played but the gameplay is kinda tedious. Walking around the map is sluggish, the interactions with objects feel janky and I really dislike the RNG skill checks. I could never get through a whole playthrough because of that. But despite all that, it's still undeniably a masterpiece.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

and I really dislike the RNG skill checks.

I disagree, I think the skill check enhances the character building, failing them often produces more interesting outcomes than passing, and passing them can create brief moments of victory for Harry. On my first play-through I was failing shit constantly except my build was pretty good for things directly related to the investigation, so it kind of worked for an RP were Harry was a washed up mess but he had been a good detective, so his past skills were shining through his amnesia and failure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Issues like this is why I like mods or built in cheat available. Any tedious part (Palworld breeding time....) can be shortened with mods/cheats, have to control yourself to not abuse it though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

any good mods you recommend for DE?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

https://www.nexusmods.com/discoelysium/mods/16

Features

Fast Travel                          Adds four discoverable fast travel points.
Set Run Speed                    Up to 3x run speed
Set Money             0-999 
Set Skill Points                   0-100
Set Attributes                     (Intellect, Psyche, Physique, Motorics)
Force Checks                      Always pass or always fail
Lock Appearance                Changing clothes updates stats but not appearance
Toggle HUD                         Turn on/off the in-game HUD for screenshots
Add all clothes                    Adds every clothing item to your inventory
Unlock all thoughts     Makes every thought available for research

Install note (GOG version doesn't work):

so for those that dont get it still , what you do is unzip the file open the file folder there should be 5 items in total. You copy those items into game folder where it has the .exe which is the game itself . I ran the game from the folder itself like someone in the comments suggested and it opened up for me.


Alternative: https://www.wemod.com/cheats/disco-elysium-trainers

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

With most games I'd agree with you, but for some reason the music and atmosphere in DE really worked for me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I really dislike the RNG skill checks

Same. That's pretty much my one complaint about the game.

I just want all the dialogue man

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It helps that very, very few of the skill checks (two or three, I think) actually need to be "passed" in order to progress. Failing actually helps build the narrative, and almost never locks you out of progressing. You can play it so that you savescum in order to pass every check, but you're missing a significant amount of content that way, and the experience is arguably better if you just roll with it. The failed rolls almost always lead to something fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ruining your relationship with Kim because you yelled a racial slur at him vs a fun time dance party is the only one where the RNG thing can fuck right off

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Do you know how to read, you ignorant fuck?"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a higher word count than Homestuck, too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

We won, folks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

An audio book, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I wish it was just a book

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I tried playing this; the point where decided to put it down was after the MC had a novella's worth of thoughts before he'd even had the chance to exit the building you wake up in.

When they release a 'finished therapy' edition, or bat-to-the-back-of-the-head edition, then maybe I'll think about picking it up again; then again the lord of the rings trilogy had less text than DE did just by the time you were done getting something from the bathroom a minute into the game. If someone stuck Harry's head under water he'd still rattle off a full ten volume encyclopedia's worth of text before he blacked out.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Internal monologs and intee character dialogue is the gameplay. Those are the battle equivalents. Without it, it's Kings Quest

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry but this is horrific necktie erasure

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've always wished someone would make a mod for basically any of the Sierra SCI games that would add in Kim as a persistent companion who just kind of has to go along with the plot for reasons that are not addressed. He would fucking hate Larry Laffer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That would be genius. Police Quest would be more normal.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

It wouldn’t be the same game at all if Harry wasn’t so absolutely neurotic, lol. I get why it not easy to get through, though. I tried starting it like 5 times before burning through the whole game in a week (thanks adhd)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

It's a good book too