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[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is like one of those memes where an image of a Star Trek character labelled with a Star Wars character’s name is saying a famous Stargate quote.
I know when I’m being punked.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Love how every permutation of ideology is held by at least one person in this country

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

I’ve actually wondered if there is even one Evangelical Christian who is also a Marxist in the US. Those views are pretty incompatible but maybe there’s someone out there who’s trying to mash them both together like two dry play doh colors.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stalin did nothing wrong because he accepted Christ the Lord into his heart on his death bed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Did he actually? That'd be pretty funny.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I do actually know a self described "Christian Fundamentalist" who is a leftist. The dude is some flavor of Baptist (can't remember which denomination specifically) and is really rad. He explained it to me once by saying that fundamentalism means following the strictest and most literal word of something. Applied to Jesus and the Bible, that means helping the poor, feeding the hungry, and not trying to hoard wealth.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Closest I can think of is Jim Jones (and even then he was like at least 85% grift)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Bart Erhman is probably the closest I’ve come across, but I don’t think he entirely considers himself a Christian anymore

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I grew up in an evangelical family and I can say that while Christianity can mesh with Marxism, it’s pretty impossible for evangelicalism to do the same. There’s too much built in shit with the more realized concept of active good and evil divine forces being the driver to what’s wrong in the world, and essentially only god can come and fix what’s truly wrong (ala rapture, god establishing his kingdom on earth post apocalypse). This is in direct conflict with Marxist ideals, which are very humanist, essentially telling us that humans can establish a more just and equitable system ourselves.

My dad is an absolute end of the world nutter and while I can get him to believe in the realities of global warming and injustices under capitalism, his end solution is still divine in nature. It’s frustrating because he can see all of the same issues but evangelicalism doesn’t leave any wiggle room for humans to fix them

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can't even begin to brain this.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

It's like a dollar that the vending machine of my brain just keeps spitting out

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

I think it's like a pro abortion but only for eugenics thing.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Literally what the fuck. It looks like she is wearing a keffiyeh too? And a rainbow flag?

I've read the explanation from OP but I am still utterly flummoxed.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Must be a Ukkkraine solidarity Keffiyeh.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

You're trying to rationalize brainworms by making things get slightly more in line. I feel that is a fools errands because they already combined the progress flag and ancom flag with antichoice, they might as well combine the keffiyah too!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Is this a pro life anarchist? An anarchist advocating placing restrictions on personal freedoms?????

Trying to logic into this position hurts my brain.

Like I get a theoretical argument (beyond the common pro-life positions) stating that allowing abortion is harms the future atonomy of an unborn baby, but that would only work under the misguided assumption that life begins at conception.

That position would also be coercive, restricting the autonomy of a woman on behalf of an unborn child, so there’s not exactly as strong of a leg to stand on.

I presume by bringing fascism into the equation they’re probably trying to point out that fascism uses abortion for eugenics, and therefore banning it would prevent fascists from doing eugenics. Well, abortion being illegal might stop eugenics via abortion, but that does nothing to stop eugenics via sterilization, and it also assumes fascists wouldn’t just perform abortions anyways.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

That position would also be coercive, restricting the autonomy of a woman on behalf of an unborn child,

This is the crux of my own pro-choice position. It's irrelevant to me if the baby is a person or if it's just a clump of flesh because, either way, it does not have a right to use another person as an incubator. It's the Violinist Argument - if you use someone else as your life support system and they decide they don't want to be an appliance anymore, they are fully justified to terminate.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's the Violinist Argument - if you use someone else as your life support system and they decide they don't want to be an appliance anymore, they are fully justified to terminate.

I'm not fond of this argument, because it can be equally applied to people with disabilities, and if you stretch definitions a bit - to everyone, because we all depend on society to survive.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Can you spell out how that would go a bit more explicitly? The violinist argument is supposed to show that nobody gets to use a particular individual as a life support system without their consent, not that we don't owe some degree of care to one another. I'm not saying there's not a way to make a (bad) analogous argument about people with disabilities, but I'm not familiar with it and can't quite see how it would go. If you've got time to spell it out, I'd appreciate it!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (8 children)

It certainly can't be "equally" applied! No one has to have their body mutilated and bodily autonomy violated and health harmed and life threatened and put through excruciating discomfort to support people with disabilities.

I'd be fascinated to see it applied equally.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

but that would only work under the misguided assumption that life begins at conception.

The whole argument of trying to place where "life" begins, or where the fetus becomes a "person" will always lead nowhere because there is no definitive cut off point or specific week/term where this occurs, forcing people to come up with arbitrary qualifications (such as an identifiable heartbeat). This will go on forever until people realize that as it is developing the (potential) child is always in between conceptual forms. The only thing that matters is capacity to survive outside of the womb, since this differentiates the outcome of the choice.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Idgi, are they a pro life anarchist or a pro choice fascist?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The former. Didnt realize this photo needed context when I posted it lol.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Anarcho Catholics or Catholic Workers?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, they're wearing a huge progress pride flag, so I think it's unlikely it's a Catholic Leftist (though not impossible). I'm a Catholic myself and I've never encountered someone with this perplexing combination of beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Could be a Francois’s with deeply unexamined beliefs

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, I remember when I used to go on /r/Catholicism I would come across the odd person who had good takes on economic issues, but upon further inspection was a fascist, and IIRC they were always Francoists. live-tucker-reaction What is going on in Spain?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s a tradcath thing, same sort who insists Mussolini is a saint because of Padre Pio

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Yeah, the tradcaths are not ok. I was on my way to become one before I learned about history and started reading Lenin. Very glad I avoided that path.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

An-Caths- against all hierarchy except the holy mother church

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

My therapist: "Pro-life ancoms aren't real. They can't hurt you."

Pro-life ancoms:

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

This picture actually short-circuited my brain.

Like my brain completely shut down, head emptied into a void, forgetting to breath, the brain-eye connection breaking up so everything I saw didn't register as any sort of existence beyond a disintegrating blur

You straight up sent me into oblivion with this post. For the briefest of time I ceased to exist because of this post.

I'm still reeling, picking up the shards of my psyche, and slowly trying to piece me back together because of this post.

amazing post

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

All the fascists are fighting for abortion rights, which is why the supreme court recently made abortion mandatory for all pregnant women.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Anarchist comrades, I know you all hate the idea of purges but hear me out...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At first I assumed that was a Banderite banner, but after reading the comments and finding out it's ancom: monke-beepboop

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Ah yes, the progressive anti-abortion uprising. You can tell from the hat. I’ve run into these jokers at reproductive rights protests. They’re there to troll and split people’s anger, deeply unserious people.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

It's genuinely exhausting keeping track of the figurative logic circuit needed to interpret this, but I think you can get a coherent [not correct] statement from this. They oppose abortion, so they dislike Fascism for [supposedly] protecting it and support anarchism for [supposedly] opposing it. I think it's probably because of some un-deconstructed "Planned Parenthood = Eugenics" brainworms but jesus christ this poor kid.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

“Fascism is definitely well-known for defending the bodily autonomy of marginalized people.”

speech-r monkey-typewriter

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

I knew there'd be someone with this take

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Don't give the paid actor attention

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

oh they're pro life? i thought they were pro fascism

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Big Hitler liked sugar, sugar is fascist vibes

Deeply unserious person

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

New Red Scare reboot just dropped

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago
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