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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am not a history nerd can someone explain because i would love to know.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The Praetorian guard was essentially the secret service, but soon became king makers. The leadership of the guard was sick of being humiliated by emperor Caligula and did not like the way things were heading. So they assassinated Caligula and murdered his family.

The problem was that Caligula's family were the Julio Claudians, descendants of Julius Caesar (the now god), and the people of Rome weren't willing to accept a leader that wasn't of the royal family.

Luckily for them, they found goofy uncle Claudius hiding behind the curtains. Uncle Claudius was the son of Germanicus, one of Rome's greatest heroes, and uncle Claudius had kept himself alive by playing up his disability for the amusement of nephew Caligula (many believe Claudius had cerebral palsy). But now Claudius was the only male descendant of Caesar, so the guards hoisted him on their shoulders and declared him emperor against his will. The Praetorian thought he'd be easy to control, but instead he gutted them and killed the men who declared him emperor.

He became a pretty solid emperor, very much a scholar. And there's a fantastic series called I, Claudius about him.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thanks i appreciate this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wow that is fascinating! Thanks for the great write-up. I'm going to check out that series

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Derek Jacobi as Claudius, John hurt as Caligula, and Patrick Stewart (with hair) as the Praetorian leader Sejanus. It's a masterpiece, but don't expect HBO Rome. I,Claudius is more like a play

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's great, thanks for managing expectations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Note that he avoided being emperor because of their short life spans and he was not an exception, as he is suspected to have been murdered by his wife.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No more spoilers! Lol I've already got it queued up to watch with my partner

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The I, Claudius story (which takes some liberties) explicitly shows Livia (Mrs. Augustus, and the Cersei Baratheon of the story) disposing of anyone who might interfere with her own son inheriting the empire. Usually, she poisons them, and does it personally.

Claudius is presumed to be dull because he stutters, and he plays up the part to stay out of the interests and malice of Livia.

Eventually Calligula gets into power, which is a Joffrey and a half, and when they finally get around to assassinating him, the Praetoreans threaten coup d'etat unless Claudius is made Caesar (thinking he can be manipulated.) In fact, he's the Tyrion Lannister of the bunch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Though probably wildly inaccurate, I Clausius is on BBC iPlayer at the moment. A few bits of filming date it, but overall it's really very good.

Just don't eat the figs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

John hurt as Caligula, and Patrick Stewart with hair!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

A clean shaven Brian Blessed before he became a caricature of himself and we mustn't forget Derek Jacobi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I misunderstood this very much until I read your other comment and realized the guys name is John Hurt.

Thought you were saying it was a painful performance or mis-cast or something :p