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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...now? I feel like climate has been the "old reliable" culture war issue when climate denialists need to generate buzz on a slow news day going back at least 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, An Inconvenient Truth came out 17 years ago and it was already an old debate then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep ... I feel it's one of those things that people should really consider to recalibrate how the feel about the issue ...

It's an old and well known problem on which the world has been dragging its heels for ages. That the world has taken so long to do anything substantial, and danced around what needs to be done for so long will be a really bad look from the future looking back.

Like, think Germans during the Nazi holocaust and the question of whether any of them did enough or the right thing.

Think grand-children asking you what you did and why you didn't do more. What excuse did you have when all the information was easy to get?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mainstream media doesn't relay the info enough, and you need to go out of your confort zone to read about it. Multiple problems about why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell, mainstream media doesn't relay MOST info enough or well enough.

Who could have known that the entire mainstream media landscape being owned by a few billionaires and barely regulated, except for draconian measures to avoid the depiction of certain parts of human anatomy and colorful language, would have editorial consequences?? 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

our society is so messed up that boobs are more taboo than ecocidal propaganda

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. It's downright dystopian 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think grand-children asking you what you did and why you didn’t do more. What excuse did you have when all the information was easy to get?

in my case, I don't have the energy or funds to effectively resist. I want to do more but can't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry to hear ... and I hope you're doing ok! Which I say with empathy/understanding BTW (I too wish I could do more).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Now? It was a Culture War issue when I was a kid 30 years ago, it's been a hot button issue that the conservatives have been hardline against since before the Clinton era.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you make something a matter of identity, facts don't matter much any more - it's about "us" versus "them".

If I was someone with a vested interest in sabotaging the process (of transitioning off fossil fuels), I would try to make their consumption part of someone's identity. It seems to follow that to move ahead smoother, the matter has to be dis-associated from identity somehow. I'm not competent in psychology, so I cannot guess how.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Arrest Dennis Praeger, Rupert Murdoch etc.

The insanity doesn't come from nowhere and is not self sustaining.