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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

2024: Big Mac costs $11 and minimum wage is still $7.25

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

2025: Mid Mac costs $12.50 and minimum wage is repealed

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But if they'd raised min wage to $15, big macs would cost $30! There's just no possible way to improve things (unless you're already a member of the bourgeoisie, of course).

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What if we made all wages zero and also all prices zero kropotkin-shining

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Nah, we just need to remove all those pesky "regulations" impeding the free market. Once we so that, the invisible hand of the market will pummel the price of the big mac into the ground

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's too many bowel movements you should see a doctor

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

back in my day we took 48 shits a day, on the clock

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

Gotta respect the aiming

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A joke that would make Terry Pratchett proud

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Read Value, Price and Profit

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

yeah, its a fantastic dunk on citizen weston. also one of the texts that early on convinced me of socialism

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of my friend who's getting a business degree showing me some of her lectures. Dunno the English terminology for it but it was something along the lines of "Customers will spend a certain percentage of their income on different needs/desires (food, rent, leisure etc) that scales linearly with their income", down to assigning percentages to individual food items.

It took me like 30 seconds before I realized how completely insane and obvious nonsense that statement was. Someone who makes 500k a year obviously doesn't spend 10x as much on eggs as someone who makes 50k. The sheer ideology in these presentation slides was genuinely shocking. Complete lunacy.

tl;dr business majors aren't people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Business schools are fake schools, and a business degree is a fake degree.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

I'll never forget randomly picking a business law class as an elective in college and on the very first day of that the professor bragged about being a right wing talk radio host, stated that if anyone ever left the classroom for any reason during class they would immediately be dropped from the course, and went on an unhinged rant about how the Duke Lacrosse case was a Democrat conspiracy against white people.

I dropped the class and took chemistry instead, where I got a professor who looked like a cross between Danny Devito and Wallace Shawn and who showed videos of him setting off crude bombs in the woods as part of his lessons on "exothermic reactions".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I went by the farmers' market the other day and a stall had duck eggs for $8-10 a dozen. Buying 36-packs from Walmart is maybe about $1 a dozen. I don't see it going much lower than that, or higher than $20, though.

For a while now I've been fairly convinced that everyday expenditures scale logarithmically with income. The increase is pretty smooth, and tapers off pretty smoothly too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It would be more damming if the 1980 figures were adjusted for inflation. Especially the minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Since we’re directly comparing the price of a product over time, aren’t we already taking inflation into account? Like this is a direct depiction of inflation and the fact that minimum wage hasn’t kept up.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think Red_Sunshine is referring to both compared to the CPI. Since 1980 the CPI has risen 355%, while the minimum wage has risen 233% and the big mac has risen 1600%. So the price of a big mac has outpaced CPI by a factor of nearly 5 while wages have underpaced by factor 0.66.

For visual learners:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Damn, I would have expected it to be something that stuck close to the average inflation of all consumer products (CPI, I guess). Like that graph would be completely expected if we were talking about housing, but not a burger.

What’s a product that has stuck close to CPI?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah campbell tomato soup index is my favorite inflation measure. According to it, the dollar has lost 10x it's value since 1971.

but it doesn't really factor in campbell becoming more greedy over time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

According to it, the dollar has lost 10x it's value since 1971.

so it's literally in the negatives? Didn't know things were that bad....

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it hits harder if it's in "units you can relate to on a visceral level"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I think "big macs per hour" is probably the most viscerally relatable metric for the average American

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The prevailing minimum wage at a job I started a few years ago was well under that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yup. And that's not even accounting for disproportionate inflation in the necessity basket. Just market inflation.

I guess the cost of food being so insanely inflated shows up in this comparison, but housing and loan/consumer credit isn't

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

$3.10 in 1980 would be the equivalent of 11.40 or so in 2023 and a .50 Big Mac would be about 1.50.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I don't understand how we got here. It just seems crazy now, how could things ever have been so cheap. Can we ever go back? I don't know, it is like this or worse in every country I visit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

I don't understand how we got here.

cant tell if trolling

rich people bribe politicians to lower the richtax. repeat for 50 years

BOSNIA

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

90% tax on the top percentile does a lot of good for society

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Can we ever go back?

Oh my yes with this one weird trick. Billionaires hate me!

But go back to what? Marx warns that this is a process that constantly and continually centralize and consolidates capital into the hands of a few. A large part of socialism is to change these dynamics qualitatively so the centralization of power isn't for the benefit of the very few.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ha ha holy shit micky and bugs are smoking a spliff joint

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yall don't get it they're chooming marijuana

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Really want cyberpunk lingo to catch on

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The Big Mac is already so overpriced that I'd rather just order a burger from a pub. Even if it's at a workday, I can just call/Doordash the pub and go pick it up in a few minutes. Let McDonald's bring that price up and force them to do something interesting to remain profitable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

If we raise wages, we're screwed. If we don't raise wages, we're screwed.

Wow, it's almost like this system is designed to screw you over no matter what.