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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Ukrainians are killed, Palestinians die

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (24 children)

When you so badly want to outrage others, you can find things to cause others to be so badly be outraged.

This meme is as bad as the “man in the street” interviews that only show you the side they want you to see.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/four-palestinians-including-two-children-killed-by-israeli-forces-west-bank-2023-11-29/

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/eight-palestinian-children-killed-gaza-strip-last-night

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/least-101-children-killed-west-bank-year

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/gallery/2023/12/28/photos-gaza-children

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-11-1-2023-children-killed-4a352398b32887e60a658e0270f0a021

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/palestinian-child-killed-by-israeli-police-in-east-jerusalem/3128312

EDIT: there’s tons of more articles just like this one.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (16 children)

You're the one doing the man in street thing though. The post's point holds up statistically yours doesn't https://theintercept.com/2024/01/09/newspapers-israel-palestine-bias-new-york-times/

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Ap and Reuters are more reputable journalists, but most of the ""news"" is broadcast by spin sites like CNN/fox/MSNBC/whatever crap

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No you don't understand. Israel brutally barraged the car with bullets and murdered her entire family.

Then the 6 year old girl begged for her life on the phone so the khamass Palestinians sent an ambulance. Then israel shot the ambulance that was supposed to rescue her with a tank.

Then israel let this 6 year old girl which was begging for her life on the phone die a slow and painful agonizing death trapped in a car with her dead family members for at least multiple hours before dying from either an infection, being shot again, or a panic attack.

This clearly means that she died of natural causes so israel didn't kill her directly and they aren't responsive for this. Do you see how stupid you are sounding now?

By the way you forgot to condemn Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (92 children)

How much longer can we tolerate this as Americans? This evil committed in our name while the domestic situation and infrastructure crumbles while we see disaster on the horizon .....

Arnt they supposed to at least keep us distracted with bread and circus? It's like they think so little of us anymore they don't even need to try.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Were all gonna die, arent we?

There will just be a small subset that remain to work on the Boston Dynamics Slave-O-Matics that the ruling elite use for all their daily needs

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Superbowl’s tonight, eh? He gets us. I wonder if he’ll smite that devil woman for fixing the big game. If I lose my bet I’m not paying up because she RIGGED it. This is a fight between our LORD and EVIL.

…what’s a “Gaza” anyway? Like Lady Gaza or whatever?

(/s in case anyone needed it)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Then, tomorrow, back to work. Company downsized and I do three people's jobs now for same pay. CEO says I work much harder in the office than from home.

News radio is sad, and I'm already sad, so I'll listen to a funny podcast in traffic.

Get home exhausted. Maybe do a good deed by up voting the stories people need to hear. Count down to weekend.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

There's too much money involved for our overlords to stop. The Israeli aid lobby is massive and feeds the war machine that our politicians personally profit from. Then there's money that comes from Jewish donors and other interests that hate Muslims. It's all about the money.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

It's also two completely different stories. One is about an air strike and someone who died in it. Another is about an air strike and someone who called for help and kept people on edge for days wondering if she would be rescued in time. Unfortunately, by the time they found her she was dead. These meme is outrage bait for emotional reactionaries.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

"What made you so radicalized?"

You did, Israel.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

fked up society we live in…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I hate that I had to exist in this timeline of life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I’m confused. What is this trying to say?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That the little girl just "died" and wasn't "killed" by Israelis. "Baby killed by Russians" "baby died because we didn't get there fast enough"

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, the second part is true, but they couldn't get there fast enough because the Israelis killed the EMTs too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I‘m not sure if you interpret more into the words than there is. If you read the articles text thoroughly you’ll find a difference in those deads.

The dies-articles: „after phone calls“ , „after x days in car“, „days after cry for help“ and others. Those are all after some time.
The killed-articles: „in a air strike/ rocket attack“ which is immediately.

This sounds quite correct from a grammar point of view. Still, it’s sad for the kids and family.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I noticed the stories covering that little girl's killing don't implicate the IDF at all, even though we have enough evidence.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That our media has a double standard, a bias for supporting Israel. Russia killed children in Ukraine, they say “killed”. Israel killed children in Palestine, but they won’t say that - instead, those children are just “dead”.

Very little difference in practice because the killing by IDF is implied or deducted anyway - but it’s a difference in rhetoric.

That six year old child was not “dead”, she was killed by Israel. Her relatives, whose corpses she spent her last days surrounded by, were killed by Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

It's a common propaganda tactic to use slightly different terms for the same thing, depending on how the victims are viewed by a country and its media. Some people die, as if they were doomed anyway, or as if they were just statistics in a paper. Some others are killed, like actively by the hand of the enemy, which makes it tragic and sad.
It's one of the differences between unworthy and worthy (of media coverage, or consideration by the public) victims.

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