After reading "Into Thin Air" by Jon Krakauer, I feel like anyone still traveling to climb Everest is a rich douchebag. It's glorified tourism of the worst kind. It's been done a zillion times already, and isn't as impressive as they fantasize. Go run a marathon or something for your stupid adventure junky social media clout. The sherpas do all the real work.
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That's an incredible book. I highly recommend both that and Under the Banner of Heaven. Krakauer is just riveting.
Totally agree, I think Into Thin Air is maybe my favorite book and I wasn't expecting that at all when I read it. I really enjoyed the show based on Under the Banner of Heaven too. What a bunch of crazies.
Krakauer is definitely a great writer but the factual issues in into the wild kind of made me wonder just how accurate the rest of his books are.
I don't know about Into the Wild, but I have read plenty about the FLDS church since to know that he at least got those details right in Under the Banner of Heaven.
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He admitted to some errors. He's trustworthy overall. That story has always been surrounded by a cloud of emotions and conflicting "takes". Which is very understandable. But I would also question the sister's version. Not saying she is lying, but a family member will always be biased.
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At this point it'd be safer to just build a tram line to the top and then hire the sherpas as the infrastructure mechanics to keep it maintained, raises their incomes and cuts the shit with people dying for dumb rich people nonsense.
The Chinese already built a paved road to the North Base Camp. Only a matter of time before they build it all the way to the top.
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For real, go climb Muchu Chhish if a flex is wanted. Highest unclimbed peak in the world that can be legally climbed right now.
Ok, help me understand this.
Muchu Chhish (7,453 metres (24,452 ft)) is a mountain in the Batura Muztagh sub-range of the Karakoram in Hunza Valley, in northern areas of Pakistan.[1] Located in a very remote and inaccessible region, only a handful of attempts have been made to reach the summit; and none have succeeded.
Ok, that seems to track but then there's this bit...
most expeditions thus attempt it via the South Ridge of 7,462 m (24,482 ft) Batura VI to the immediate west. This ridge was climbed by a Polish expedition in 1983 using fixed ropes while making the first ascent of 7,531 m (24,708 ft)
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IMO he was stressing how easy it has become to make the climb. In that it was expensive is another issue. His point was that people that didn't have the ability to make the climb, could.
That was definitely one of his major points. But he also talked about all the damage being done, and how people make really stupid decisions. And how it's an arrogant and pointless endeavor. He was fairly self-critical, which I respect.
He was speaking as a witness to a tragedy and as such was trying to identify why it happened. He himself was blamed for part of it by climber families. Of course any event that ends in tragedy seems pointless in retrospect.
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They're clearly not thinking this through. They all need to lug their frozen poo to the summit and pile it there, so they can stand on it when they take their selfie and declare that they're at a higher peak than any previous summiters due to their poo pedestal.
Love it
One thing that is not on my bucket list is climbing Mt. Everest. Any natural wonder and charm it once had have been destroyed by mindless tourists.
So that is something that is on my bucket list, not climbing Everest.
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Thought it was "starts to sink," I was like ok that's a lot of poop
BRB gotta eat enough tacobell to reverse tectonic processes and launch the monsoons into central asia
I thought it was shrink.
How much frozen human shit has that mountain accumulated since people started climbing it for fun? Can somebody do the math on that? I feel like it has potential for a really shitty trivia question. Like, for Shitty Jeopardy! or something. JFC, I am baked.
@FlyingSquid omg I didn't realize it was your post. Hi! Ok I'm gonna put the bowl down
~~A shitload har har har~~
Apparently the average UK adult defecates about 100g per day, and that's the first link that showed up so I'm going to go with the UK numbers in that one study. According to wikipedia there were 11,346 ascents as of July 2022. Assuming two weeks from base camp to summit and back, based on Tom Kilpatrick's article on The Manual, that means 1.4 kg of shit per climb for a total of almost 16 metric tonnes or 17.5 short tons
Some maths are better left unmathed
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Astounding how fucking senseless people can be.
Yeah but imagine all the clout and bragging you can do with a photo of you at the top?
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They need to just haul a big trebuchet up there.Then they can just launch poop down the mountain in sealed containers with the poop trebuchet. Ideally you could have a few poop trebuchets in a line to launch em down one after another.
Easy peasy.
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Global warming is gonna make that a simple hike.
Support global warming! Let the earth clean up Everest poop the natural way! Decomposition in situ: transport costs more emissions!
The thing that makes Everest dangerous is the air pressure combined with everything else, that's why it's such a long slow ascent, you have to acclimatize so your lungs don't implode.
In the summer the summit temperature is about the same as a bad Canadian prairie winter day
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At least the idiots all funnel to the same place rather than fucking up every location. I feel the same about Joffre Lakes near Vancouver.
limit the permits to climb this mountain and charge people thousands of dollars for them
I too, believe the best way to control a natural resource is to only allow the rich to use it. For they are truly better people. Always known for their consideration.
Plus, their shit doesn't stink.
Yeah seriously, just limit the amount of people who can climb.
I personally believe that anyone should be allowed to go on a suicide mission should they chose to, whether they be rich or poor.
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That's already the case isn't it?
You really can't have a better headline for the wealthy enshittifying the world for their singularity point egos chef kiss
Sherpa rates gonna skyrocket
How do they wipe and clean themselves up there? I'd bring my bidet with, lol
Poorly I would guess
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