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No one really knows how things will play out but I was wondering if people are committed to Lemmy, or would the mod team migrate to greener pastures if a better, more functional alternative comes to the forefront.

I'm hoping Lemmy can improve but I personally don't love using it. Its still early days though so that might change. There are a couple promising alternatives in development right now but since they aren't out, everyone is migrating to lemmy.

As someone with a disability, the UI/UX is problematic and makes me physically ill after using it for a short period of time.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I am more than willing to wait for Lemmy to grow to see where it heads since it's only been a thing since 2019.

Despite it having its fair share of problems, I am more than willing to put up with this for now since we're still scratching the surface on the potential of a decentralized social media becoming a little more mainstream.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What alternatives?

Maybe ask this question again if there actually is something better. But i'd agree. The UI should be accessible for people with disability. But maybe we need to work on lemmy and make that possible instead of waiting for something else to come along.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

@hendrik @Blackbeard Keep an eye on the RBlind folks because they are working on patches to solve this problem but yes, the community of developers could/should step in to make it work. There's also KBin https://rblind.com/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Exactly. What alternative? 4chan? Twitter?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like to remember how ugly and difficult it was to adjust to Reddit after moving from Digg's slick 2.0 interface. I think Lemmy will face more growing pains but will be the best solution in the end.

Reddit has literally never had a good UI/UX. It was worth it because it was the best alternative at the time.

That said, my requirements for a reddit alternative would have to be decentralized and open source. I just couldn't get into another situation like this one and I won't support it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm hoping some of the 3rd party talent that Reddit threw away will contribute and help refine the Lemmy experience.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've already begun work, and I'm excited to see it too! SyncForLemmy and Artemis are my top two right now

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

reddit shined because of 3rd party apps for me.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been a redditor for more than 16 years. Due the the recent events, I've been through my comments/submission history, noticing how much more active I was in the beginning. For the past, I don't know, 5 or more years, I've been just lurking less and less, to the point that when it came to delete my content and account, I didn't even have any regrets. Just did it, and that was it.

Now comes the fediverse. Here I am, commenting again, actively checking what's happening here with a renewed enthusiasm. So yes, I'm excited for it being FOSS, federated, decentralized. By the people, for the people. Yay!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same here, and that's great to see.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I'm committed to ActivityPub. I don't really care if the specific server backend ends up being lemmy, kbin, or something new.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

A lot of people switched to lemmy recently, so the development focus is on scaling for now. It'll probably take a while until that's sorted out properly and the devs can focus on accessibility.

I think lemmy is a good place for this community because we don't need to worry about big platforms overmoderating.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IMO, the solution is not to switch to something better, but to communicate to the developers on how to make the UI/UX better

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They seem to be ramping up the updates lately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I'm on lemmy.ca and in my settings I found Rediggit as a theme, which makes lemmy look similar to Old Reddit, so there's definitely progress

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No apollo app no reddit. I agree the UI/UX is problematic but the native reddit ad filled app is way worse. Lemmy both has lots of room to still improve the experience but its build well enough already to actually function and people to be here.

Its also open source, decentralized, possible to self host. Aka owned by the people rather then corpos. All those things for the new homepage of the internet? I can only get so errect.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Come on, give it some time. It's coming a long way, and devs are working their ass off to deliver some quality updates.

Also, there are a dozen apps in the works for iOS and Android that are to be released soon, if that's not already the case. So you should have more choice to pick a better experience browsing lemmy in the coming days.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking at other fedi apps like Mastodon, accessibility and UI/UX will soon follow. Which is promising.

But yes, it's the early days of Lemmy and maybe even the fediverse. So we'll see what the future brings ;)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I started on Mastodon last year and watching it increase in size by orders of magnitude over the last several months has been a beautiful thing to watch. I am thrilled Lemmy has taken off, finally. The fediverse has restored my faith in humanity quite a bit and consuming it feels healthier, there is no way I am going back to centralised platforms. Come to mastodon and get a glimpse at what Lemmy may become. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it DOES feel healthier, doesn't it? since starting here yesterday, i have been retraining my hand to not click on reddit. but honestly, i don't even want to.

i am willing to commit to lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think the end-goal should be that it doesn't matter. Choosing a social media app like reddit, lemmy, twitter, mastodon etc shouldn't matter any more than choosing a web browser. All the content should still be there regardless of which platform a user chooses to use to experience it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lemmy know if something better comes along

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

OP check out wefwef.app. It’s basically Apollo for Lemmy.

Now it feels just like Reddit except with longer load times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Why WOULDN'T we move off if something better came along?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It fills a slightly different niche but there is also aether. I think Lemmy and Aether complement each other. Lemmy federates with other applications but Aether is ephemeral and takes advantage of P2P topology and and cryptography.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had no idea Aether existed. Thanks for the read!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I only found it earlier today! Seems to work? I'm interested to see how they deal with, you know, fascism and whatnot

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will switch if something better comes along that is decentralized.

The profit motive poisons everything and turns it to shit. I won't join a social again if it can be purchased to turn me into another metric on a spreadsheet for someone to sell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's a key part of the dialogue. Social media is not quite infrastructure, and it's not a service that can be monetized without moral hazard of some kind. It should therefore be owned and operated by communities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm really into the Fediverse, so it would have to be another Fediverse software.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think the thing there is if it's federated it'll probably end up federating with lemmy anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm hoping kbin will be more popular and improve at it gains users. I like the microblogging feature, because it 'tiers' the content we'd share, and makes different users/communities easier to discover.

But it's a very new platform, so it will be a while before it sees fruition; it also has almost all users on a single instance kbin.social; so other instances lack content (it doesn't federate as cleanly as Lemmy) and makes users over-reliant on the admins of that instance, undermining the point of federation.

Unfortunately few platforms design with accessibility in mind; they consider it a 'nice to have', not a 'need to have'. As platforms get bigger they'll gain the interest of coders that consider accessibility to be as much a 'need to have' as the rest of the front-end. After all, Reddit itself was never accessible - 3rd party devs made it so, and they will again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Do you mean just Lemmy or the fediverse as a whole? Cause I hear some complaints about the ethics of the Lemmy creators and some people are switching to kbin which is still in the fediverse. So I can see people jumping ship to kbin but I already made my Lemmy account and don't really care to switch at the moment. I'm not entirely sure what the situation with Lemmy creators is anyways

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some people are crying because one of the devs is a commie.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk why this comment got so much downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm assuming some kind of politics are involved with the stuff I mentioned, but like I said, I'm not sure what's going on there but the fact I even mentioned it obviously is enough to trigger one side of the little war going on there

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely understand why they hate commies/tankies, however If we already start beating down communities that heavily, then we are on a rough start. Let's just accept our differences and learn from eachother.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I couldn't agree more, stay on big tech if you can't accept both sides

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well unless their ideology is baked into the programming I'm not sure why it would matter. It certainly doesn't matter to me.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly i would go back to reddit if the hole drama ends. Its not my intension to be rude by any means but I honestly dont care about the politics, im here to pirate free software

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Do you care about not seeing ads? Since you apparently like getting stuff for free: this is the free version of reddit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A piracy forum needs to be decentralised and based on FOSS software to be able to have quality content, we are not advertisement friendly lol.

Lemmy is the best option.

If not Lemmy then maybe a discourse forum but that would be even worse for mobile users.

Lemmy will only get better from now on, but tbh I prefer its UI over other alternatives official app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am committed to federated services from here on out. I am personally really liking lemmy... There are some minor annoyances but nothing major. The mobile browsing experiences makes me pretty cozy. With the dark theme it's not too far from rif. Apps and plugins are coming that will make it that next special thing. Like I couldn't imagine aliensite without old and res. It's coming... I'm loving it.

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