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Travelling in Baltic states: post Soviet demonisation is pretty wild. Need a quick info dump (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Vilnius, Just been to an art gallery and the museum of occupations (soviets real bad). Unlike in Germany where they temper their anti soviet edge with their obvious “well, we did do the holocaust “ guilt, here there is no compunction. Absolutely no accountability for the holocaust and even they they blame their antisemitism on the soviets and the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact

What is going here? Is this all post Soviet world building lore generated by nato?

The only thing that I found vaguely compelling was the sheer number of deportations the Soviets did. It’s the Lithuanian bloody shirt , and they can’t stop waving . Why so many in the Baltics and so few in Germany? What was the logic behind it? Were they all nazi sympathisers and landlords? I’m not going to find anything remotely objective here, and it seems like it’s such a Story Of Strategic Importance that it’s put in the header of most things I read here.

Spot check of a few sad pictures I found in the museum of heroic partisans brutally murdered by Soviet brutes :quick google search and yep, Simon Wiesenthal got em flagged for some horrible shit.

Can I get some good places to look ? Not looking for “Stalin did nothing wrong “counter narratives but With ukr going on there is precious little sources on the front page that aren’t thrumming with “Russian orc bad all ways and forever more “

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks all for the input.

As a follow up I'm in Latvia and I'm having a icky feeling that they are going to maidan their Russian speakers here some time. Just went on a walking tour and the guide was " need more Latvian babies Russian old people need to be politically trimmed,nato is saviour"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is going here? Is this all post Soviet world building lore generated by nato?

It's that and the fact that the Soviets didn't go far enough to purge/reeducate Balts that were, at minimum, 100% fine with the Nazis. A pretty common pattern, actually: the USSR plays something soft for good will and gets smacked because the other side were unredeemably fascist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're telling me that once again the "authoritarian" tankies weren't actually oppressive enough!? :lenin-rage:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

well of course stalin did something wrong, he stopped at berlin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What is going here? Is this all post Soviet world building lore generated by nato?

History in the post-AES states is usually written by:

33% by diaspora Communities in the United States

33% by the counter-revolutionaries of 1989

33% by the narratives constructed by the pre-war military dictatorship

Interestingly, the anticommunism is usually some form of "the Russians were exploiting us and held us back", at least when it comes to Poland. The western bullshit like "Communism doesn't work, it means no food and no consumer goods" isn't used much, because it's easily disproven by asking any random boomer on the street - even though this is Poland I'm talking about, THE worst run European AES state.