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The US risks getting “out-competed” by China in Latin America, particularly in telecommunications and other critical infrastructure, setting off alarm bells for the US, a senior American military official said on Friday.

General Laura Richardson, head of the US Southern Command, delivered her observation on security challenges in Latin America and the Caribbean and their potential implications on US security during a discussion hosted by the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank.

Chinese outreach was “absolutely global and right under our nose, so close to our homeland”, said Richardson, whose command provides contingency planning and security cooperation with the Caribbean, Central America and South America.

“What the People’s Republic of China is doing looks to be investment, but I really call it extraction … and I’d say that it’s in the red zone.”

While there was no Chinese base in the Western hemisphere now, Richardson said, Beijing’s extensive infrastructure investment through its Belt and Road Initiative pointed to the potential for one in the future – a development that would “significantly heighten US security concerns”.

The Chinese embassy in Washington on Friday defended its Belt and Road Initiative.

Its projects were marked by comprehensive dialogue, mutual collaboration and shared advantages, said embassy spokesman Liu Pengyu, “illustrated by the 420,000 jobs it has created and the acceleration of economic growth in participating countries”.

“The BRI is well-received among the world most importantly because it is an initiative of extensive consultation, joint contribution and shared benefits,” Liu added.

“China never imposes its will on other countries, nor does it slip any selfish geopolitical agenda into the initiative.”

The general’s remarks on Friday come at a time of escalating disquiet in Washington over alleged Chinese military expansion near the US.

The Wall Street Journal, quoting confidential US intelligence, reported in June that China was on the brink of establishing a spy base in Cuba.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The US: destabilizes multiple South American countries for fucking fruit companies

China: actually invests in them and improves their standard of living, and South American countries develop a favourable view of China

The US:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imperialists: Imperialize.

Tankies: Oh yes please, more daddy Mao.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imperialist Murderers: Invade & murder innocent civilians for no other reason than hurt egos
Wankies: Thank you for your service. Freedom for ya'll. Tankies are the problem

Fvck Tankies and Wankies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Wankies”? That’s so fetch.

You can just say fuck imperialists, that covers China, Russia, America, and France/UK however irrelevant they’re becoming.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah... That second phrase is just as naive as the first.

Anyway, I don't think anybody in South America believes either of those powers have their best interests at hearth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does de cool aid taste?

(Not saying the US is good, but China has no interest in improving anything other than their bottom line and geopolitical influence, don’t kid yourself).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, let's see... USA gave us the Juntas, took a piss on our technological developments, overthrew every president that opposed them or opposed their freaking corporations... China is paying for the renovations of our whole railroad system.. they are gonna keep it and tax us for it when they find out we can't afford paying them back... they already knew we wouldnt pay them, BAD CHINA

Both USA and china arent aimed to improve our lives but china's investments are actually doing so. In the particular case of my failed country, china is the only reason why we arent dividing by zero each time we do a cash count at the central bank

Don't get me wrong, I despise the Chinese government and sociopolitical system, they are a threat to democracy and to the western culture as a whole and i know that they are just putting the noose around our necks.. but I totally get why a lot of people here would rather give china a chance than run back to the US toxic relationship. I mean, please lower the belt if you are thinking of calling us back and tell us that this time you have changed.

Me, i think latin america and specially the south cone should close ties with the EU.

Sorry if this comment comes a little sassy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dude, same boat here, I am from South America, and I absolutely agree that we are basically screwed with every populist regime that comes and goes, regardless if they call themselves left wing or right wing. In the end, they are all just corrupt imbeciles making a buck off of other’s misery and hunger.

The problem with Chinese money is that it will end the same way US money ended in the 80s/90s: indebted countries with massive inflation.

Mercosur is negotiating a deal with the EU, which should improve things a little, though, even though I was raised in Europe, I can tell you that it will be same shit, different continent.

I gave up trying to find the less bad player here. And don’t forget that some of the world biggest predators, including Nestle, Santander, Lloyds and Danone are European.

What South America needs is to get rid of populism, but I reckon an alien invasion is more likely. The way Argentinian elections are shaping up to happen, with Massa and the Kirchners not wanting to give up power; Brazil electing populist imbeciles like Lula and Bolsonaro; Chile stuck on drafting a new constitution; Peru dealing with protests and a regime that wants to amass more power; Colombia trying to survive the FARCs with peace agreements; Bolivia trying to stabilize itself after some really turbulent times; and Uruguay, well, swinging from left to right, I reckon we are ways from solving any issues.

So might as well embrace the Chinese, since there is not much left to lose. Just without any illusions that what they are doing will be any good to anyone in the long run, like US money from the 50s was.

And don’t worry, discussing Latam politics as a whole makes anyone sound sassy.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

This is just hilarious. America has been a plague on its southern neighbors throughout it's entire history. The tankies around here are a bit extreme, and China definitely isn't the good guy.... Trying to pretend they're any worse than America in their relationships with South American countries is laughable though. "Extraction" is exactly what America's goal has been with South America forever.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

China never imposes its will on other countries, nor does it slip any selfish geopolitical agenda into the initiative

Hahahaha. Sure. Except when they cancel trade deals with Australia and bully small European countries. I'm SURE this is just free money out of the goodness of dictator Xi's heart.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main problem is corruption in these small countries. The government officials get back hand deals from China and then the populace are left with the debt.

If China is overtly investing in your infrastructure, you can be sure there's corruption involved.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

E.g. right now there is a post on how China is refusing help Uganda build a new Railroad to help Uganda. Because it will help Uganda, not help China steal from Uganda.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Jesus, the level of projection.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Hey pot? I got kettle on the line here, it's for you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"China never imposes its will on other countries, nor does it slip any selfish geopolitical agenda into the initiative.”

What a crock of shit lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not the most reliable source according to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-china-morning-post/

Overall, we rate The South China Morning Post Left-Center biased and Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing.