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The court finds that there is sufficient basis for South Africa to have filed its complaint at the court, and rejects Israels request for the case to be thrown out.

The court has "taken note" of statements made by senior Israeli officials, including Yoav Gallant's saying that the IDF are "fighting human animals" and President Isaac Herzog's words that "an entire nation out there is responsible" and that there are no "uninvolved" civilians.

The International Court of Justice determines 'at least some of the rights claimed by South Africa and for which it is seeking protection are plausible, the right of Palestinians in Gaza to be protected from Genocide'.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

I have some hopium that the ICJ will rule that it is a genocide (but it will probably take a few years), because the statements made by Israeli officials are just too blatant.

Although of course nothing will come of that ruling.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Half of worldnews is already saying that actually this is Israel's victory while the other half is claiming that the ICJ is Hamas. Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah. I'm seeing this too in r/israel. It seems like the long term plan is to lay this all at the feet of Ben Gvir and say Netanyahu is blameless.

At best we'll see Netanyahu thrown under the bus too, and put in a 99% Hitler instead. I don't really think this will be an offramp from Israel support generally.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm slightly surprised the court isn't also running cover for Israel. Is anyone here familiar enough with this to explain why not?

I don't really believe in objective courts generally. Is there some difference here? Are they not subject to bullying from the same countries that mess with other international institutions?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

with tinfoil hat on:

it gives off ramp for everybody to drop isntreal like hot potatoes

Another possibility is judges have no fucks to give, cause they don't have cushy retirement gigs, they are already in one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Not only that but they basically spent 30 minutes reading further evidence into the record. While the ruling itself is not 100%, the premise of the ruling were very certain. There is no ambiguity about what is Israel has already done. They accepted without caveats (like implying hamas might be lying about it) a death toll in the mid 20ks.