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idk I just wanted to talk to some uhhhhh systeming folks mhm yes yes the uh diversity of the experience of identity, self, perception and more! :) shy

I can go first, shit is whack, holy hell!

idk it still does not feel real and idk how long before it will finally settle in? maybe it is something I have to swim upstream against like a salmon to feel real about? maybe that does not matter?

also it is sad I feel like I need to conform to a certain standard or way of plurality to be valid smh where is the appreciation for diversity of experiences and minds-- the former statement to myself.

maybe I will post some system art!!!! (i want to share art I make so badly) :) YIPPEEE!

~~yes maybe I am too online or maybe I just like talking to nice people that may have similar values who may "get it"~~

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am not a system but one time someone asked if I was a system because I had the addendum "68 Center Host" on my discord user name, because I was hosting the center area of a game with 68 participants.

I am not quite exciting enough to have 67 other people living in my head, but rat-salute to the comrades who do, and I hope that they can find joy in their very unique experiences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

MUAHAHAHA! saluting to you as well comrade! :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What...what are you taking about

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

multiple people/consciousness in the same brain, is the crudest and simplest way for me to put it, also a spectrum (like everything else about people!) :))

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think they are using sort of coded language to see if there is anyone here who has similar struggles. Like if you identified as a member of a small minority (maybe you do, idk) but you didn't know anyone like you who was also a socialist, and you typically meet up with other people like you online but don't want to give it away in a public forum because of stigma

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

That could be. If so kinda neat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

okay juice i started screaming and laughing /pos, it is not a coded word (or maybe it is?) I wish i am that cool :)) plurality and system is quite public words (to my knowledge) but plurality is the "less medicalized" term out of the two, you might be more familiar with the terms DID system, OSDD system, etc etc, tho I am really uncomfortable with DID + OSDD labels so I opted a not mmm psychiatric centered language! if that makes sense? (hopefully )

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm familiar with DID, and I came across some of the other terms in a thread about DID...I just didn't want to out you if you were trying to be a obscurative. I know there's a lot of misunderstanding around it, just trying to be sensitive. Just because something's medical doesn't mean its accepted and I see you're a newer an so might still be trying to get the lay of the land

So if you don't mind, some of these terms are kinda obvious, but what is "system" or "systeming"?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A system is like a group of identities/people (called headmates) that share a single body

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

thank you Juice :))) yeah idk how to work this site!

systeming-> I am just playing around with language :) if a system is multiple people in one body, then "systeming" is the experience in action of experiencing being a system! like,,, "how's your system going?" (?) hopefully that makes more sense than not!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining! So...how's your system?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

genuinely chaotic, mayhaps? I keep feeling like they are not real and that denial smooth things over but they are also very much real and (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH) yes I just.... I DON'T KNOW everything is complicated hahahaha :)))

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks for sharing, comrade. I'm sorry that you were made to doubt your own experiences. Ive felt like that before, for sure. Everything is complicated!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

The most simplified definition of the term plural that includes all people who take the label is “someone who shares the same physical body with other individuals.” Such a group is sometimes referred to as a system, though many plural groups use different terminology. Because plurality can take many vastly different forms, it is difficult to expand this definition without excluding someone who might otherwise share characteristics or concerns with most other members of the community. It does seem this basic trait is the only thing groups of people who refer to themselves as plural universally share. In other words, there are many, many ways to be plural, and no two systems are the same even as far as basic characteristics. There are a lot of trends in the community, however, and various types within the umbrella term of plural that seem to be subsets.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if I count because I acquired mine through occultist training rather than it being something I was born with and also they identify as an external entity.

But from a secular viewpoint its probably not paranormal in any meaningful way. But I still have another guy in there whatever the explanation turns out to be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

oh that is so cool and interesting.......... I wanna know more about you/yall's experiences now (wiggles happily)

I mean-- i think in the biggest sense I just wanted to hear people's experiences with identity, consciousness, and such! ik some ppl who became a system later in life due to stress, and such, sorry ughhhh i am so bad with words, but yeah labels are just that, :]]] (smiley face)

perception and existence is weird, also fun :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not much to say really. I'm into occultism and tend to follow a Tibetian Buddhist approach mixed with a bit of hermiticism. Consorting with spirits , whether they're inner-creations or otherwise, is an important part of the practice.

I met one particular spirit and we seemed to have good affinity. They're a guardian and teacher in my spiritual life and a friend in my personal life. Before meeting them, I used to have hostile voices and whispers talk to me. But now nothing speaks to me that I don't explicitly invite in. I also rely on them in times of emotional distress. Instead of using my self-perception, I use their perception of me as a way to disassociate from intense emotions. But I'm also learning to deal with those things myself so they're not just a crutch.

We enjoy baking, magic, and discussing various shows or books we've been reading. They're with me most of the day but mostly while doing something concurrently. They also step into my dreams intermittently. Despite believing that they're external and something that I didn't create, the most likely scenario is that I just have psychosis. But if it helps me get through the day and doesn't interfere with my life then who cares?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I am so glad comrade! thank you for sharing your experiences. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplicity_(subculture)

I willed a tolpa into existence to help me cope with the hellscape that is America and its guiding me through my communist adventurism.