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There are a few regional ones that I'm sure some would love to see thriving, but I'd personally like to see an active SexOver30 community for those of us who are not spring chickens anymore. I know others have been removed for similar behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it appropriate to contact the instance admins in this case? Not really sure what the procedure is for this issue on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's why I posted here. I didn't want to overstep by sending PMs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This is a very valid reason.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let's be clear here. It's much more appropriate to ~~pm~~email the admins than it is to start up a drama thread about a specific user. Your end goal is the same either way, but posting a thread publicly blasting another user is overboard.

*edited for pedants

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except posting here is what admin has asked us to do in previous situations. PMing was literally discouraged. I did end up sending an email.

Edit: Sorry, I realize he directed people in that specific situation to [email protected], but there have been multiple times in extremely similar situations over the past week when users have been told to post here. Both are modded by the lemmy.world admins, and I would think either is appropriate.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

PM or email. Same thing - a direct message to the people that can actually do something about it and, more importantly, have the authority to decide if they should do something about it. (*And to be clear, I only said PM because that's the term you used. Sorry for sticking with established terminology, I guess).

And this in fact isn't [email protected], so no, posting here isn't what the admin said to do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if they managed to reserve all of the relevant communities on every instance, wouldn't it just take one instances admin to remove them from the community to start one there?

And then you have a community that is open and available. This seems like exactly the sort of problem that federation helps prevent.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, you are technically correct that a community with the same name could be made on another instance. But this is the Lemmy.world Support community. As the largest Lemmy instance at the moment, why would they want their server full of inactive communities modded by squatters? It's also my primary instance, so why would I want to create another account elsewhere just to make that community?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You could still moderate it from your main account. Making another account is tedious, but easier than making this thread. Granted, this thread might be useful for multiple people and .world as a whole, so not really arguing against making this thread. Just that specific reason for not making your own community elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Total tangent, but have any Reddit mods of the big communities setup shop on Lemmy?

I’d be surprised if they hadn’t, but I am surprised I haven’t heard of any so far.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

r/Android did, which was it's own controversy. They setup shop on lemdro.id, and convinced the c/Android community mods on Lemmy.world (w/ 16k subscribers) to close that community, leave a note telling everyone to migrate to the former r/Android mod's Lemmy community on a different instance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A whole instance for one community seems excessive.

I guess they have trust issues after having to deal with /u/spez…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Star Trek has also set up their own instance for basically one community. They might have 3 by now but still basically the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

an r/AskAnAmerican mod reserved [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is very reddit-centric thinking, but it's not how the fediverse works.

About a month ago in the lead up to the reddit exodus a lot of people (myself included) were thinking this way. As in "whatever niche subreddit needs a new home - which instance is going to host them".

The reality is though, there's going to be a dozen small /c/SexOver30 communities on different instances. If you want to participate just subscribe to all of them. When you're interacting with your community it just doesn't matter what instance a specific post is on. Over time the better moderated fragments of your community will become more popular and the others less so - or they won't, and that's fine too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand how the fediverse works. This is a support community for the specific instance Lemmy.world, not the entire fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, sorry mate - I didn't mean to imply anything, just relaying my own learnings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're good. I think a few are misunderstanding my intentions. I do have an alt on a much smaller instance, and I know how all of that works. But lemmy.world is my primary instance, and in the interest of this specific server, squatters and inactive communities aren't a good thing. Admins here have already asked that they be reported so they can be removed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just curious. What's the purpose of an alt account in the fediverse? Just wondering if I'm missing something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't have a big reason. I signed up for a secondary account on a tiny instance when lemmy.world was having trouble. I like the more close-knit feel, but I was also already kind of established here. So I just have both now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I recently responded to another post about taking over a community: https://lemmy.world/comment/936580

Check that comment out for guidance on how to get this rolling. Step one is definitely be a person who is willing to take over some community as a mod and reach out to the current mod asking to do that. If they ignore or rebuff you, start gathering the evidence suggested to support admin intervention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Really need a robust policy and guidance on this, I think

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is I, the user in question! I've been busy on another instance and hadn't checked in here for a few days, so apologies for that. I'm not a "powermod" nor am I "squatting" on communities as some kind of power play. The particular community you want is an NSFW adjacent space that's helped untold thousands of people over the years and it absolutely REQUIRES a sex positive moderation team without any egocentric jackassery in order to function correctly.

The /c/ you asked me for is, as you know, based on a Reddit sub and one that I'm heavily invested in. I've been part of that community as both a user and moderator for a very long time. I am quite literally one of the people who helped build and maintain what you enjoyed.

Is it "Reserved" for Reddit moderators? No, or at least not really. When I created that /c/ it looked like Reddit was going to come completely unwound very shortly (still might actually) so I was making some elbow room in case we needed to shift over in a hurry. In fact all of the communities I created here are the same way; I'm not just "a" mod in the subs those lemmy communities are based on I'm actually a builder of them. It's also why some of them have "placeholder" posts, so if another mod from that sub happened to wander by they would know to make a request.

With that said you are absolutely correct that I need to either do something with the /c/ you requested or let it go. So with that how about you join me in building a similar community here on lemmy.world?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the reply! I and my wife are two of those thousands who were helped by that subreddit over the years. I would love to help build a similar space here for those of us who have left Reddit completely behind. My intention was not to stage a coup or hostile takeover -- I just wanted to see it turn into an active and positive community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I made a "Community Update" post to the sub. If you reply to it I can make you a mod. :)

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