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It was investigative outlet Correctiv that released a bombshell report about a "secret" meeting at a hotel near Berlin in November involving around 20 people - including senior AfD figures and neo-Nazi influencers.

At least two members of the centre-right Christian Democrats (CDU), the party of former Chancellor Angela Merkel, were also said to be present - claims being "examined" by party officials.

Discussion allegedly focused on so-called "remigration" - the removal of millions of asylum seekers, "non-assimilated" people and those with "non-German" backgrounds, even if they hold residency rights and citizenship.

germany is so fucked

Alternative für Deutschland has been enjoying record success in the polls in a significant election year, placing second behind the CDU and ahead of all three coalition parties; the Social Democrats, Greens and Free Democrats.

Their rise coincides with dissatisfaction among voters with the divided government, as well as policy issues such as the cost of living and levels of immigration.

The AfD is hoping to make big gains in the European Parliament elections in June and could even emerge as the strongest party in next September's votes in the three eastern states of Thuringia, Saxony and Brandenburg.

Any pursuit of a ban would present serious political dangers as well as legal obstacles.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It is scandalous when left-wing activists using Stasi methods attack a private meeting to spy on respectable citizens.

hitler-detector

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

bring back the stasi

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Liberals are such fucking cowards when looking like they want to combat fascists. No wonder why the first thing they do when leftists start rebelling, is align with the fascists.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure that would go over smoothly, and they wouldn't just reconstitute the next day as DfA (Deutschland für Arier)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

State repression is absolutely effective when utilized. If Germany gave a shit about opposing fascism (they doesn't) they could crush this party right now and cripple the movement for a decade at least in a single blow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Sure, but it would also put on display the hypocrisy of the rules based order and Western values to more people.

When they do this to leftist orgs everyone agrees with it, and doesn't care. When they start doing it to the right and people don't agree, that's when things start to break down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

But that won't do anything to the size of their voter base, it will only legitimise their ideas even more and will draw in more people dissatisfied with the old established parties who will vote for new or other parties that share those same ideas.
For example the former chief of the Verfassungschutz, Maaßen, is currently in the process of starting up his own right wing party.

So, imo this can only backfire at this point, this should've been done a long time ago.

Unfortunately I don't have any good ideas how to stop Germany going full fash, maybe Sahra Wagenknecht is successful with her culturally "conservative", yet somewhat leftist and anti-imperialist politics in making people vote for her instead of the AfD or whoever takes their place.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Do it, cowards. Suppress fascists for once, just once.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

banning the nazi party would be setting a slippery slope to actually doing something against all the reichburgher parties that rule krautlandia

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Everybody kinda expected that was going down, but most were too lazy to put together the pieces. There were definitely enough statements out there for those willing to see. The plans for expatrition are very transparently taking notes from other right-wing governments.

It's also not like the governing parties and the CDU are not half-way there already, with criminalization, fearmongering and skirting the limits of bourgeois law to take away the last human rights to asylum they otherwise blabber about. "deportation offensive" was literally a term used by Scholz. Spahn, the little worm, talks about deportations to Rwanda, UK style. Greens defend breaching church doors with chainsaws to drag out panicking refugees. Everybody in these parties celebrated the Common European Asylum System, which tears families apart, puts people in camps, allows for rushed processes (an excuse to dismiss more claims), also, people are getting deported into Afghanistan. I could go on, but you get the idea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

The Germans won't do shit to stop AfD, and then, when they win big in September, they'll be shocked. But god forbid someone wants communism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

It says 3 comments but I don't see any comments

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe should have thought of that before they became 2nd most popular party.