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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Guess who wants to have sex with his first cousin

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I think this is more of post hoc law making.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Look man, I ain't saying she's hot

but I also ain't saying she's not

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Well according to ben 10 fans...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It's not just cousin-fuckin', it's a legislative priority!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you saw his cousin, you'd understand

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Care to explain? Is there any link to chase? Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure it was a joke about his cousin being hot.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I mean...way to own it, Nick Wilson, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Weird, but who cares?

Is it gross? To me yes. If they're consenting adults should we stop them? No, and I don't see why we should care.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bill also reduces the penalty for diddling relatives from ... 12 years old onwards...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Why would you read past the headline??

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a moment to research the extinction of the Hapsburg family line?

In all seriousness, at face value, I agree — consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want. However, things get sticky when you introduce reproduction to the mix.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

(Can’t believe I’m saying this) then the target of the law should be reproduction with your first cousin, not intercourse with your first cousin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

children shouldn't be punished for their parent's horrendous decisions - we've already got MTG & Boebert, haven't we suffered enough?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Charles Darwin was one of the first scientists to demonstrate the effects of inbreeding depression, through numerous experiments on plants. Darwin's wife, Emma, was his first cousin, and he was concerned about the impact of inbreeding on his ten children, three of whom died at age ten or younger; three others had childless long-term marriages.[14][15][16]

Wikipedia

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If this was happening where I lived, I would care about the potential impacts on the community from the possibility of an increase in genetic disorders of children born from such a union. Including increased stress on Healthcare, increased mortality rates during childbirth, increased citizens on government assistance, etc. Not saying these things would happen, but I would care enough to look into it.

There's also the impact on reputation resulting from one of the states leaders thinking this was an important enough issue to create a bill for, and then the impact on reputation if it gets enough votes to pass. Would the opinions surrounding morality and / or reproductive rights carry less weight? Could it even sway people away from the side taken by Kentucky just because it is the side Kentucky is on?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well keep in mind the odds of a birth defects from first cousins is the same as a women over 40 have kids at all. But i don't see applying that argument to this case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe I could have been more clear, but you seem to have inferred a different argument than what was intended.

The original comment was asking "who cares". My response was intended to say anybody that anybody in the jurisdiction of any bill / law should care enough to educate themselves on the potential impacts and not merely consider the surface level impacts on themselves as an individual.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Policing other people's possible genetic disorders sounds a bit like eugenics. Should we also make it illegal for autistic people to breed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My intent was to answer your question "who cares" question. Now it I see that you care.

People should care about laws that are and are not imposed on others, especially if they are in a position to voice support or opposition to those laws.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So we would also conclude abortion bans are eugenics then? I mean fine be free to fuck your cousin, if we agree on the government having no place in our bedrooms. But surely sex crimes should be prosecuted then.. as this bill also wants to provide leniency to those offenses down to age 12...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Kentucky, WTF?!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

his first cousin is probably bad as fuck

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kentucky. Not big surprise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, my bet would have been on Alabama for that, but Kentucky is fine.

They are just aligning the law with the Taliban Sharia...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's always been legal in Bama

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

In Alabama it is probably verboten to marry farther out than first cousin...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

It's still incest, it's just wouldn't be a crime anymore. Which honestly isn't a big deal. It's not a crime in most states and marriage is legal in some.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Says a lot about Kentucky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Says a lot about Republicans

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

These knuckle-draggers are a grotesque caricature of themselves, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not cousin marriages are not a big deal in most countries/cultures around the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You say that, but it's still really rare in most countries with only about 10% in the entire world. It seems that Arab countries are typically the exception and are responsible for most of that 10%. There is probably a lot of cultural nuance there that I'm missing, but the link below has a world map that really illustrates that it occurs mostly in the Middle East.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I did some searching and you're right that it is practiced in high amounts in the middle east however you also find the same in North Africa and parts of Asia (specifically the Indian subcontinent, parts of India and southeast Asia). You also see its practiced in smaller amounts around the world. Including Europe and South America as well some countries to a lesser extent in North America. I'll provide one source below but you can search for more.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0906079106

It would be interesting to see cultural attitudes towards it around the world though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Gotta make your voting base happy right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's his ~~grimace~~ smile. That damn smile.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Guess Kentucky wants to be like those other backassward, conservative states like California, Colorado, Mass., Vermont...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States