Conservatives really love policing the genitals of students for some reason.
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Funny, that isn't what the article is about but thanks for not reading it.
For some reason, liberals always want to talk about people's genitals. What is your obsession with licking boots and thinking of other people's genitals?
If the article isn’t about genitals then what is it about? What’s the harm in using gender-affirming bathrooms if you take genitals out of the equation?
I’m specifically asking you because I want to read your answer.
Why are you asking me when i stated no opinion that there is harm. You’re projecting a view on me I didn’t suggest.
I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other. I’m a man. One my coworkers is a trans man. He just goes to the stall and does his business.
I get the concern women may have but that is an issue a woman would need to opine on.
The general argument is safe spaces for women.
It’s something scotus needs to address.
You claim there is harm, what harm is there?
You claim you don’t have a strong opinion, but you want the highest court in the land’s opinion on what should be a settled matter? Seems like you have a pretty strong opinion, you just don’t want to vocalize it.
If you remove genitals and sex from the equation (something you said to do), what about gender-affirming bathrooms makes them an unsafe space for women? Because at this point we’re talking chromosomal differences and nothing else.
I must have missed where I personally said that. Can you cite where I said that?
You can clarify here instead so as to avoid further confusion.
When you remove sex and genitals from the equation, what are you left with that would cause an unsafe space for women?
Maybe the traitorous sexual predator you want to give access to nuclear codes can help answer this for you.
Let’s keep this simple. Why do you keep trolling? I’ve yet to state my opinion and you act like I said something I didn’t.
I’ve given you multiple opportunities now to clarify but you just keep complaining about me.
I guess you have Futtbucker Derangement Syndrome
Boba
Warning: Violation of rule #1 and #3
If they don't clarify, don't put words in their mouth.
I’ve requested clarification from the user no less than 3 times now.
Based on my comment history I have prefaced each statement about this user based on what I know, worded as a guess, with an invitation for them to clarify and prompting questions.
For my own edification what more should I be doing here to avoid putting words in their mouth?
you need to supreme court to teach you about genitals?
dude there’s tons of health textbooks.
Why are you so fascinated with genitals?
oh so you’re asexual, is why you want the government to teach you about sex?
Funny, that isn’t what the article is about but thanks for not reading it.
The article is about school policy of student’s use of their respective genders bathroom:
"At issue was whether either the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, which says that the laws apply equally to everyone, or Title IX, the federal law that prohibits sex discrimination in education, protects transgender students in that context."
It is absolutely what it is about.
For some reason, liberals always want to talk about people’s genitals. What is your obsession with licking boots and thinking of other people’s genitals?
Do you have anything better than a "no u"?
No. Do you not understand the difference between gender and sex? The school wants people to use the bathroom of their sex. Not their gender identity.
Do you have anything better than a “no u”?
Dude, you’re always talking about genitals and licking boots. It’s weird. Expect to be called out on it.
So you disagree that scotus should address this issue? Or should it continue to be muddled
Do you not understand the difference between gender and sex? The school wants people to use the bathroom of their sex. Not their gender identity.
So in other words, it's about genitals. Thanks for playing.
So you think trans people are just genitalia. That’s creepy and also offensive.
I do not. Try not to put words in other people's mouths. You have a real problem with it.
It’s literally the only way they can argue on this topic lol. Twist your words until they can shit on you for having a poorly worded argument, negating the fact that their dumb ass took it there.
We can all see it happening. You’re not subtle.
Well you keep talking about genitals and keep talking about them. So obviously you think it’s all about genitalia since you keep obsessing over it. Trans people are more than their genitalia.
You are correct, so why restrict which bathroom they can use on this basis?
Furthermore, why would you want the SC to make this decision for them? Isn’t the conservative stance toward less government interference in citizens’ lives rather than more? Doesn’t restricting bathroom choice reduce personal freedom?
Why don’t you try to make an on-topic argument instead of just raging against anons challenging your view?
Interesting. You think you know my views. I’ve yet to state them other than scotus need to address the issue.
I keep inviting you to share your views. You alone have the power to rectify this situation.
I have shared what I wanted to share. I think scotus needs to clarify.
Why even bring SCOTUS in at all, though?
From the article.
At issue was whether either the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, which says that the laws apply equally to everyone, or Title IX, the federal law that prohibits sex discrimination in education, protects transgender students in that context. The court's decision not to intervene means that litigation in lower courts nationwide will continue, with judges reaching differing conclusions. The Supreme Court is likely to weigh in on the issue at some point.
Only SCOTUS can clarify.
Which part is unclear? Within the given context what about the 14th amendment and Title IX conflicts?
You can not discriminate on the basis of sex, AND apply that equally to everyone, so what’s the problem?
Gender and sex are not the same thing. Sounds like you agree with Indiana that biological men should use the male bathrooms since their sex is male.
I said not discriminate, and to not discriminate equally, so you must be jumping through mad hoops to get to that conclusion.
It isn’t illegal discrimination to keep males out of the female bathroom. It appears you don’t really understand the court case or the words sex or gender. Discriminate doesn’t mean what you think it means. It means to pick. As long as you don’t do it on a protected class, it’s legal. Sex is a protected class. Gender identify is not.
According to the DOL, gender identity is a protected class though, that brings up Title VII.
Doesn’t really matter what you say anyway since SCOTUS already declined to weigh in.
They are letting it worth through the lower courts before making a statement. Typically, they wait for the lower courts and appellate courts to make decisions before reviewing the cases.
I think now you are starting to see the issue. Slowly, but I think you are getting there. VII uses the term sex. Gender is not used in the document even once.
Are you starting to understand the issue? You can't say the two wards are different and then say they mean the same thing.
When the Civil Rights Act was passed, we used the words the same but also being gay was illegal.
I suspect SCOTUS will punt this back to congress and tell them to create a law.
Re-read the text.
In 2020, the Supreme Court ruled in Bostock v. Clayton County, 140 S. Ct. 1731, that discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity constitutes discrimination…
SCOTUS already affirmed Title VII applies to Gender AND Sex.
Bostock v. Clayton Count
I am aware but that is SCOTUS creating law which is the same issue with Roe VS Wade.
I think you are slowly catching on to the issue. The courts have not been consistent and as such they need to clarify. If you remember the case, people were surprised Gorsuch voted the way he did but it is consistent with his beliefs.
I think the court was incorrect in its ruling using the Civil Rights Act. The Civil Rights Act does not cover this topic. As such congress needed to amend it to cover sexuality or gender identity.
Otherwise, we have courts making laws which I am against. Alito spoke out that since it was defined, it wasn't protected.
I am not against the protections, but I am against the courts writing law. If you haven't read the case, I would suggest doing so as you will see the issue. They defined sex as orientation or identity which is not how the word was ever used.
This is exactly why Roe was overturned.
The correct way to fix this is congress has to pass a law.
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Instead of trolling. Why not Contribute something. My explanation is spot on. Where do you disagree ?
“The school wants people to use the bathroom of their sex. Not their gender identity.”
Oh ok so it IS about genitals lol. You just said it wasn’t.
Also I just looked at the other user’s history and the fact they’ve never used those terms prior to this conversation confirms you’re also just projecting.
So you can’t comprehend your own source, then you can’t even do the most basic of projection well because you didn’t even look first to see if your accusation had a nugget of truth.
Get better.
Sex and genitals are not the same thing.
Within the context of this article (and argument) they absolutely are, otherwise there would be no problem using the bathroom one feels most comfortable with. You just can’t agree to that without being wrong so feel free to keep arguing. It’s hilarious.
Why do we separate bathrooms at all, just have full private stalls and a common area for the wash area.
Not all places do. Alamo in St. Louis just has stalls or urinals. I personally love it. You go wherever you need to go. I admit it’s weird at first but you adjust quickly.