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I do not. Try not to put words in other people's mouths. You have a real problem with it.
It’s literally the only way they can argue on this topic lol. Twist your words until they can shit on you for having a poorly worded argument, negating the fact that their dumb ass took it there.
We can all see it happening. You’re not subtle.
Well you keep talking about genitals and keep talking about them. So obviously you think it’s all about genitalia since you keep obsessing over it. Trans people are more than their genitalia.
You are correct, so why restrict which bathroom they can use on this basis?
Furthermore, why would you want the SC to make this decision for them? Isn’t the conservative stance toward less government interference in citizens’ lives rather than more? Doesn’t restricting bathroom choice reduce personal freedom?
Why don’t you try to make an on-topic argument instead of just raging against anons challenging your view?
Interesting. You think you know my views. I’ve yet to state them other than scotus need to address the issue.
I keep inviting you to share your views. You alone have the power to rectify this situation.
I have shared what I wanted to share. I think scotus needs to clarify.
Why even bring SCOTUS in at all, though?
From the article.
Only SCOTUS can clarify.
Which part is unclear? Within the given context what about the 14th amendment and Title IX conflicts?
You can not discriminate on the basis of sex, AND apply that equally to everyone, so what’s the problem?
Gender and sex are not the same thing. Sounds like you agree with Indiana that biological men should use the male bathrooms since their sex is male.
I said not discriminate, and to not discriminate equally, so you must be jumping through mad hoops to get to that conclusion.
It isn’t illegal discrimination to keep males out of the female bathroom. It appears you don’t really understand the court case or the words sex or gender. Discriminate doesn’t mean what you think it means. It means to pick. As long as you don’t do it on a protected class, it’s legal. Sex is a protected class. Gender identify is not.
According to the DOL, gender identity is a protected class though, that brings up Title VII.
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/oasam/centers-offices/civil-rights-center/internal/policies/gender-identity
Doesn’t really matter what you say anyway since SCOTUS already declined to weigh in.
They are letting it worth through the lower courts before making a statement. Typically, they wait for the lower courts and appellate courts to make decisions before reviewing the cases.
I think now you are starting to see the issue. Slowly, but I think you are getting there. VII uses the term sex. Gender is not used in the document even once.
Are you starting to understand the issue? You can't say the two wards are different and then say they mean the same thing.
When the Civil Rights Act was passed, we used the words the same but also being gay was illegal.
I suspect SCOTUS will punt this back to congress and tell them to create a law.
Re-read the text.
SCOTUS already affirmed Title VII applies to Gender AND Sex.
I am aware but that is SCOTUS creating law which is the same issue with Roe VS Wade.
I think you are slowly catching on to the issue. The courts have not been consistent and as such they need to clarify. If you remember the case, people were surprised Gorsuch voted the way he did but it is consistent with his beliefs.
I think the court was incorrect in its ruling using the Civil Rights Act. The Civil Rights Act does not cover this topic. As such congress needed to amend it to cover sexuality or gender identity.
Otherwise, we have courts making laws which I am against. Alito spoke out that since it was defined, it wasn't protected.
I am not against the protections, but I am against the courts writing law. If you haven't read the case, I would suggest doing so as you will see the issue. They defined sex as orientation or identity which is not how the word was ever used.
This is exactly why Roe was overturned.
The correct way to fix this is congress has to pass a law.
Instead of trolling. Why not Contribute something. My explanation is spot on. Where do you disagree ?