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The mods have stated a few times that it's just a matter of having the right tools to better handle to influx in trolls that the instances bring in. The admins and mods are in communication with the other instances working on a solution.
As a whole even when we were still federated the majority of the shit.justworks and .world instances were fine. A little more typically abrasive internet guy but the majority of users are just people. The problem was due to their open registration process that a disproportionate amount of moderated and banned users came from these instances and with the current explosion in users and everything else on their plate the mods had to do what they had to do.
Refederation will happen eventually though.
I think federation is overrated. How difficult is it to have multiple accounts these days?
It will be very hard to vet users from other instances properly in the Fediverse. Even if tools exist to do better validation (like, for instance, allowing an instance to validate that the subscriber from another instance has a valid email address), someone with ill intent can figure out a way around that.
I think that the Fediverse could use an identity verification service, but fear that's what Facebook is trying to be.
Having multiple accounts isn't the issue IMO. It's communication about centralization / decentralization. There is confusing and mixed messaging about the difference between "Lemmy" and "Beehaw." Just like there is between "Mastodon" and "mastodon.socal."
Joe public's perception of participation in social networks is based on brand: "See my post on Facebook," "reply to my tweet," "did you see that subreddit?"
It needs to be clearer that's not how things work here. There are things you gain from decentralization, but also things you lose. People will always want the best of both worlds.
I think that begging the mods for refederation will be a common occurrence in the newly emerging fediverse, but I think we'll all just have to get used to the idea that the fediverse is about voluntary communities and you'll have to forge your own path using multiple accounts/etc. The entire point of defederation is that Beehaw doesn't want certain communities or people with certain viewpoints congregating here - that's the choice of this community and the use of multiple accounts does get around that but it's just what will have to be done if you want to be someone associated with defederated communities.
I think we’ll all just have to get used to the idea that the fediverse is about voluntary communities
So many people have only ever known the Internet and web as a handful of centralized walled gardens that have a financial interest in keeping you locked in and scrolling. So when you have a system that is explicitly built in a federated manner, explicitly built to give communities the ability to choose who and how they interact with others, and you don't have algorithmically generated content, those people are just lost.
To be clear, Beehaw has said that they'd refederate with lemmy.world once better mod tools exist. I don't believe they have any particular problem with the instance beyond the fact that it was too big and too open to control the inevitable trolls and bot accounts that come with it.