guns

No ethical consumption under capitalism blah blah blah, but ESPECIALLY for guns. They are made for war and cops; civilian market is an afterthought. Buy used model of whatever fits your hand best. Maybe don't buy literally from Israel Weapon Industries, or buy through a leftist reseller if it really floats your boat, but I don't think you're gonna find much meaningful difference between the manufacturers.

You should never buy a gun based on its chud status. It’s a tool and it’s here to serve a function. Plus that’s a battle I’ve tried to fight and got exhausted doing. Just buy the one you like, which after it’s all said and done, will probably be a Glock.

If after reading that you’re still not convinced, the only thing I’ll say is sig is easily the most chud of all of these at the moment because they won the NGSW contract for the army and also their pistols have been adopted by the army and marine corp.

All gun manufacturers are MIC fascists. Get a gun that works for you. There aren't any guns with good politics.

For home defense skip the gun and get one of those giant 24oz canisters of pepper spray. You're much more likely to hurt yourself or someone else with a "home defense" gun than you ever are to stop a burglar. Pepper spray has a large number of advantages - You don't have to aim much, if you're wrong then someone is very upset at you and not dead, it's easy to use. Another big thing - Psychologically most people don't want to shoot an intruder. They want to scare them, tell them to leave, make them go away. Folks often don't shoot, which means now there's a loaded weapon in the situation that could be used against you, or whatever. You don't have to worry about that with pepper spray. If someone's in your house spray them down like it's a wet-t-shirt-contest of pain. No one's gonna die, or even really be injured, and while they might want to die now they'll be fine in a day or two.

Probably less legal bullshit to worry about, too, but I have no idea what self defense laws are in california. But generally speaking not killing people and not leaving permanent injuries is better, legally.

If you do want a gun, cali has a list of which guns you're allowed to own and afaik it's not a terribly long list, so you're going to have to start from there.

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Honestly, when it comes to guns, they're all fucking chud companies. They're all making money off of defense and/or cop contracts, and marketing themselves in the chuddiest way possible. Even imported AK's were sold by chud companies when those were still common. So long as it doesn't have explicit chud / fash symbols, that's about as good as you get when it comes to guns. I would concentrate more on your budget and needs.

Sig makes good guns. If you like those and it won't break the bank, they'll shoot forever as long as you maintain them.

First, you should probably get a very good idea of what you want by going to a shooting range and trying out different guns. You should also learn gun safety and how to shoot before buying a gun. A local lefty gun club is a good place to start to finding classes, hangouts, and places to buy locally. Re: supporting chuds, consider buying used, as this distances you from primary production.

Get a compact Glock, 9mm. Probably the g21.

Then get an optic.

Then replace the trigger.

I don't like my Glock. It is the most common handgun in America. You will find after market parts. You will be able to get magazines. You will be able to get carbines that receive Glock magazines. If you were to ever be in a shit hits the fan situation and you need to find ammo in an unexpected situation, 9mm/.556 is the most common round. You will be more likely to find like minded people who use this weapon and were you to be in a situation, you could share ammo/magazines.

I recommend handguns for home defense. Most encounters with firearms are less than ten yards which is within effective handgun range. They are far easier to conceal than an AR build. You won't be sticking your barrel around corners with a handgun. You can conceal carry a handgun and keep the element of surprise. They can be fired one handed.

So for your first gun, I (and others I know) recommend the Glock. That being said the people I know have a perspective on why we own firearms and our concern is very much a shit hits the fan anticipation in which case finding parts, magazines and ammunition is of chief concern to keep the gun functioning.

If you are looking for a firearm for home defense and are not conceal carrying it, you should buy a basic AR-15

Pistols take more training to shoot competently compared to rifles

Everyone already said it, but you’re thinking about this wrong.

That said no matter what 9mm double stack striker fired pistol you get, set aside money to get a light, night sights or an optic that works good in the dark and possibly a suppressor (can’t rember if you can get nfa items in ca).

E: alternately if you know you’re not gonna practice, then get a light and night sights for your revolver.

Get an AR-15, it's a lot more fun for target shooting than a pistol. Go with featureless, too, because fixed magazine is a pain.

I like my CZ P10C. In general I think CZ is slept on in the us. It's a great shooting gun, at decent price. I ended up putting different sights (night sights) and a better trigger in it. But that was just personal preference and not a necessity.

My favorite for home defense is my Smith and wesson M&P 9mm. Remember to use hollow points for home defense, much less like to penetrate walls than normal ammo. Also 9mm will stop someone (without body armor) just as well as .45 with less penetrative power, again something you want when ever you're in close quarters with non-coms

You should be able to find a cheap shotgun anywhere. 12 Guage is the real home defence situation. You should practice with it as well.

if you want to become a gun person there might be a socialist rifle associate somewhat near you.

Used Chinese gun, maybe.

To piggyback, if you were talking to a comrade who lives in a mid-sized midwestern city and has been thinking about getting a gun on and off for years, what would you say would be an affordable 'generalist' option that would be good to have if things went sideways? I have a toddler so I am very worried about safety, and have generally given up the thought on the grounds that, at the point where I have to defend against intruders I'm probably already fucked, even if being able to coordinate with other workers and perhaps hunt in an emergency are valuable capabilities.

for home defense you want a mossberg 500 shotgun my dude