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[–] [email protected] 63 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Appears to show" like it's not a video and not something that happens every day.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But it does appear that way. And they probably didn’t get any “real” confirmation that the video is real.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I get it, I just think it's a bit weasel-y when people describe video footage that way. Like were they provoked? Did they kill one? It's not that complicated.

Israel said they were "kneeling to light a Molotov cocktail" and so it wasn't unprovoked. Problems are a) no Molotov cocktail in the clip and b) they shot someone else first, not the person kneeling. So let's put on our fucking Sherlock hats and solve this mystery oh wow I wonder whatever could have happened

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"An IDF spokesperson said he was kneeling to light a molotov"

Every single word in there is a lie. Wow.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nader told the AP that the object was a stack of cardboard boxes and scraps of paper that 17-year-old Osaid Rimawi had gathered and was preparing to light to keep the men warm.

Pretty fucked up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aljazeera also just released this video of the IDF Nazis shooting civilians fleeing on the "safe route" https://youtu.be/qGsy2xTXpfY

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The fatal shooting in the village of Beit Rima last week is the latest in a series of incidents in which soldiers appeared to fire without provocation, a trend Palestinians say has worsened since the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza three months ago.

After reviewing the footage, a military spokesperson said soldiers reported that one of the Palestinians — visible kneeling in front of an object just outside the frame — was igniting a Molotov cocktail when he was shot.

Nader told the AP that the object was a stack of cardboard boxes and scraps of paper that 17-year-old Osaid Rimawi had gathered and was preparing to light to keep the men warm.

Other videos of the shooting posted to social media and reviewed by AP appear consistent with Nader’s description of the object Osaid was preparing to light.

Human rights groups have previously presented cases in which soldiers opened fire without their lives being in danger, in apparent violation of the military’s rules of engagement.

The Hamas attack prompted Israel to wage a blistering air and ground campaign on the Gaza Strip that has killed over 23,000 people — and to tighten its grip on the West Bank through near-nightly, often deadly, raids.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At the extreme left of the video you can see a man in the middle of the road kneel down to light something on fire. The men contend that it was a pile of cardboard they wanted to burn for warmth. The Israeli's counter that it was a Molotov cocktail.

It doesn't look like a Molotov cocktail, but personally I don't buy the "warmth" story. Who lights cardboard on fire in the street for warmth? I think a far more likely scenario, given the men knew Israeli soldiers were nearby and didn't leave while others did, is that they were attempting to show some resistance by burning shit. This pissed off the Israeli's, who shot at them.

Seems like murder given the lack of an immediate threat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Who lights cardboard on fire in the street for warmth?

People who got everything they have taken away from them, apparently 🙄

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These people have houses mate. Watch the video for proof.

Not even the homeless would burn scrap cardboard/paper in an uncontained little pile in the middle of the street. That would provide next to zero warmth and would require the person to sit in the middle of the street.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not even the homeless in US could compare to Gaza. Also, just because you see someone still has a home, doesn't mean everyone does. The ones that do don't want to set it on fire. Wait, you don't think they have functional proper heating in there, do you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This wasn't in Gaza, and the interview is done in the wounded man's house. Read first, then virtue signal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Are you saying West Bank is much better than Gaza?

What is your point, exactly? A bunch of people lighting bonfire on the ruins of their own hometown deserve to get shot?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

... I said it looked like murder. There's just no satisfying you people. And for the record the West Bank is much better off than Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The desert is pretty cold at night. Lighting trash on fire for warmth is credible.