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Is there a way to shop around for a Lemmy instance based on how many instances are blocking it and how many instances it's blocking? For example, I noticed that the lemmygrad.ml instance is relatively popular, but it seems like a lot of other instances block it. It also blocks a bunch of other instances. So, if there are any communities on there that might be relevant to me then I would be missing out. I guess I could just create an account on a walled instance, but I would prefer not to keep creating accounts. I'd like to just find one instance that maximizes my access. Is the answer to just run my own instance?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

tbh, there is no such instance. Not blocking any other instances is often a reason to be blocked by other instances.

An instance that blocks no one is in effect a "free" speech instance that prioritises the right to be bigoted over the need to provide safe spaces for folk. And that means that instances that value the need for safe spaces over "free" speech are going to block the instances that don't block anyone else as a means of creating and maintaining that safe space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some folks think that defederation is a bad thing. OK.

Here's a little experiment you can try at home.

  1. Stop using GMail, Hey, or whatever email service you're currently using.
  2. Set up your own mail server (there's instructions on the internet).
  3. When the instructions say to use a Remote Black List just ignore them.
  4. When the instructions say to validate domains, ignore those too.
  5. When the instructions say to set up SPF, DKIM, and DMARC just let those slide.
  6. Try to send / receive email
  7. Also try to read your inbox. For added benefit turn on all notifications for received mail.

Voila. Now you have an unfettered email experience.

And this, class, is why defederation is useful.

Please send your comments to the overworked TA in the back of the room.

β€” Craig Maloney

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is running your own Lemmy instance as difficult as an email server?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

probably not, but you'd get the same amount of horrible stuff as you'd get if you turned off all the security precautions on an email server. the point i'm making here by quoting Maloney is that blocking is a security precaution. less is more, and by joining an instance that doesn't block anyone, you're exposing yourself to a lot of terrible stuff. besides, instances that don't block get blocked themselves, so horrible stuff would be all you'd see

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

U might want to take a look at the federation map. It might be a bit overwhelming but in the settings on the bottom left you may chose blocked and allowed in order to get some insights on who federates with whom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh wow what did lemmygrad.ml do?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I hate linking you to reddit but this post came to mind Choosing an instance; and my issues with lemmygrad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're just generally annoying. They're tankies, constantly praising Putin and the CCP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Basically sums it up really, although it's great fun to drop in and stir up shit every so often.

They're completely off the deep end though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@[email protected] linked one reddit post while I was searching for this one, so here it is anyway:

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/13zl7s1/fediversetips_i_do_not_recommend_lemmy_i_have/

And here's the OG mastodon post from fedi.tips:

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379

Make sure to "Show More" on each post in the thread, including the replies. I thought it was all spamming the same post for a minute, lol.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Feditips comes off as such a Sinophobe, it is hilarious. Mastodon forgot to solve more racist problems than just virtue signalling against Nazism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wow what did lemmygrad.ml do?

Be communist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Be mindlessly propagandistic "communist." The countries they fawn over aren't even particularly communist, they're just authoritarian. Russia in particular is run by capitalist oligarchs.

It's just tiresome and pointless engaging with them.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hi facedeer, you understand that one of the Lemmy.ml instance rules is not being insulting, right?

I don't appreciate being called mindlessly propagandized out of the blue, especially by someone who's certainly heavily propagandized.

The countries they fawn over aren't even particularly communist, they're just authoritarian.

Can you help me understand your level of knowledge about Marxism-leninism that you feel comfortable correcting me?

It’s just tiresome and pointless engaging with them.

You engaging me makes this a lie. You started barking first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's fine to be offended that they called you propagandised, but that doesn't make it less offensive to immediately say the same thing back to them. You are both insulting each other, it's not helping the Lemmygrad situation.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is no "lemmygrad situation", it's gaslighting lemmy by liberals getting wind in the sails with reddit refugees and attacking us all the time. note this basically didn't happen at all before, they just blocked us and maybe badmouthed in their dens, i don't care, i;m not going there. The arguments we had on lemmy were heated but not resembling current offensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not speaking about you specifically, I have no idea who you are. I'm talking about lemmygrad in general. Just like the person you were responding to was talking about. He asked "what did lemmygrad.ml do?" And I'm clarifying that.

It's not that lemmygrad.ml is simply "communist."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This dude is sealioning you, block and move one.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're not sealioning, they're responding to a bunch of strong, reasonably insulting allegations. Maybe not responding gracefully, but they're not sealioning.

In fact, I don't even think it's possible for one reply to be sealioning, the whole point is that it's repetitive harassment (as stated in the wiki link you posted). That's why the original comic strip that defined it has so many panels.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now I know why you refused to engage with or debate me on Tiananmen Square thread yesterday. Not very nice behaviour, honestly. Liberals are the most pointless, anti-revolutionary people on political spectrum, honestly. Either they will love the populist status quo that benefits them, or turn to the "protective" conservative/nationalistic ideas to enforce western imperialist status quo. It also sheds light on why conservatives and socialists have so much more intelligence and critical thinking than liberals.