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https://archive.is/20231109141208/https://www.economist.com/china/2023/11/09/china-wants-women-to-stay-home-and-bear-children

It's hilarious that capitalist rags like the economist want their lib readers to fear Xi by making him out to be some authoritarian conservative.

Also funny: central government wants local governments to invest in good toilets, the gall! How dare they support improving public services! wojak-nooo

https://archive.is/20231109140845/https://www.economist.com/china/2023/11/09/xi-jinping-wants-china-to-have-better-toilets

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, "we should actively foster a new type of marriage and childbearing culture" actually doesn't sound regressive or conservative, at least that little quote on its own. It sounds like Xi wants society to support pregnant people and people with children in new and better ways. Of course, we simply don't have the context of this quote, so it's hard to actually draw any conclusions from it. My guess, though, is that The Economist wrote this trying to make China look as terrible as possible, so my guess is that in context, this quote sounds even better and The Economist stripped the relevant context to attempt to make China sound scary and anti-feminist. Never mind that the US (and the UK) are actually in the midst of an extremely anti-feminist moment, China is scary and bad, don't you know?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Economist's articles are the liberal worldview distilled in a way I don't think other propaganda outlets capture in the same manner. I think it's rooted in its origins as a lobbying platform for the bourgeoisie way back in the 1840s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I agree with you. The Economist is its own particular kind of terrible. I think it's the media outlet I hate the most, actually. I also hate, hate, hate that Economist articles don't have bylines. We don't get to know which particular ghoul wrote this particular reactionary nonsense article, so it's just "The Economist" having terrible opinions, as usual. Fucking cowards. Put your names to your articles so I can make fun of you personally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So supporting the working class so they can raise a family on one income? The horrors! The horrors!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Giving maternity leave and child subsidies is authoritarian, you have to just arrest women and force them to have kids and arrest them again if the kid starves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The advancement of women's cause not only facilitates individual development of women, but also promotes family and social harmony as well as the development of the country and the Chinese nation, he said.

It is necessary to strengthen guidance on young people's perspectives on marriage, childbearing and family, he said, urging women's federations to fine-tune and implement supportive birth policies, enhance the quality of population development and respond to population aging.

Noting that protecting the legitimate rights and interests of women and children, promoting gender equality and the all-round development of women and children are important components of Chinese modernization, Xi called on women's federations at all levels to intensify efforts to solve the prominent problems that affect and infringe on the rights and interests of women and children.

So sinister... If you cut and paste around all the bits where he talks about advancing and protecting women's rights.

He asked women's federations to conduct in-depth investigations to gain insight into the thoughts and aspirations of women at the grassroots level and understand the urgent needs of the cause of women's development.

Nooooo you can't just ask women's organizations to investigate and understand the urgent needs of women, you PATRIARCH!

Source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

but his power has limits

So much for my authoritarian dictatorship

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China has one child policy: "evil dictatorship, no freedom, mandatory abortions, oppression of women"

China relaxes one child policy & empowers families to responsibly provide for their children: "China wants women to stay home and bear children"

insert Parenti quote

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is abortion legal in China?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and widely available if the person needs it. There's claims right now that they're trying to restrict access, but even the media admits that it's not actually bad policy, really:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220816224630/https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-discourage-abortions-boost-low-birth-rate-2022-08-16/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't even have anything to base the claim on, just a translated statement that includes "reducing abortions" in the middle of a bunch of family support measures that would intrinsically reduce incentives for abortions

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yep, much like most of Western media, they get a quote from an official or a document, and then frame it in a way that makes them look bad. They know readers won't look too far into it and look for a proper source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Authoritarian: Asking a women's conference to investigate healthy new ways to think of a family unit where women and men are equal and people still have babies.

Democracy: Ban abortion, lock up contraceptives, and arrest women who drive across state lines for medical care.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Democracy

maybe-later-honey "If you would have just voted harder, we wouldn't be doing this!", I say with my Senate majority and full control of the White House.