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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When one group became openly hostile to multiple populations of people based on things like race and sexuality, it's no longer 'voting with your feet', it becomes 'go somewhere they're not gonna shoot my son'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah this article was interesting, but absolutely drenched in both-sides-ism. "I wanna be able to fly a thin blue line flag" doesn't compare with "I'm LGBTQ and fleeing for my life."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thin blue line flags and safe places for trans people can not coexist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The wealthy want us to fight a culture war to distract us from the class war we should be having.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The rich waged wars on democracy since the beginning of European colonization in North America. They’ve been winning steadily, with few losses since the beginning of money in society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In any war the only winner is the rich. If the rich lose, then it's called a revolution instead.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“People want to live where they know their neighbors don’t want to wipe them from the face of the earth. More at 11.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exemplified by the fact that we have started having free states again like during the civil war. The Maryland governor has been very clear and direct that the state of Maryland will take in political and social refugees from Florida and Texas. Where transpeople are being forced to die or pretend not to exist in Florida, Maryland is codifying their right to be and live as who they are.

You can't blame lefties and progressives for wanting to escape to freedom when their other option is death or hiding.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There is a real threat of harm to various minority groups living in red states. Hell, there’s a real threat of harm to women who can fall pregnant living in red states. I’d certainly not want to live there if my accidentally falling pregnant (which would likely be ectopic in my case) would result in a very high chance of my death.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My generally open minded historically liberal friend called me the other day.

He moved to a very conservative area a few years ago, and the other night in a phone call he was saying "I'd feel far safer being a liberal at a Trump rally than wearing a Trump hat at a BLM antifa rally".

It is very much perceived on the right that the left is a violent mob waiting to burn down your neighborhood at the smallest slight. While the right is a bunch of friendly Sunday school help thy neighbor types.

I tend to lean towards this is all bot farm propaganda trolling, and that only a very small percentage of either side are actually bad people I would want to avoid.

The problem is, this is how people are getting their information now days, and the idea that "Oh that's just people on the internet" is no longer valid. Social media and algorithmic rage bait driven content are having a very real impact on the "real" world.

Since he is an old friend, I was able to get him to pause for a breath in this talking point fueled screed he was on, and point out "Dude, I just want the same simple things you do, abortion access, religion out of schools and politics, reasonable gun ownership, healthy air/food/water, a strong national defense, etc".

When one of the first arguments you bring up is the "violance" of drag people reading books to kids, well shit, I just don't think we're having the same conversation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

liberal at a Trump rally than wearing a Trump hat at a BLM antifa rally

So in the discussion of red states vs blue states, the 'both sides' examples are:

  • Trump, a member of the republican party (Red) who rose to presidency as the republican candidate, still has many followers and is part of the republican mainstream

  • BLM antifa, fringe movements which have no official part in the democratic party (Blue) and have never held any political power

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’m sure both sides are actually doing this. It’s just that only one side is actually being persecuted and forced to leave their homes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Oklahoma here and am ready to get the fuck out

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

This is part of the GOP strategy.

Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri has openly acknowledged that the GOP strategy is to make it so miserable for Democrats in red and purple states that they will move to blue states. That would, in turn, cement Republican power in the White House, Senate and thereby the Supreme Court.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It won't work for long, since they're making people so poor they can't afford to move.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real. I live in Texas currently. If I could afford it, I would move tomorrow. This place is Hell, in every sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me too. I'm a clinical social worker here, and so many of my LGBTQ+ patients have been struggling with suicidal ideation with the politics here, especially with the most recent legislative session. I'm gonna stay here as long as possible and vote in every fucking election possible. Lately I've even been voting in the Republican primaries against the extremist candidates. It's so sad, because it wasn't this bad here when I was growing up in the 90s. We even had a Dem governor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LGBTQ+ patients have been struggling with suicidal ideation with the politics here

This is exactly what Abbott wants. Makes me want to plant more trees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How “Christian” of him, eh? It’s disgusting. We are human souls who deserve safety and to not live in fear. I have hope that many Gen Z Texans feel disgusted as well, won’t move, and can turn Texas blue. Once more and more are able to vote, we can transform this state. Maybe that is too idealistic, but it keeps me sane while I am unable to move.

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