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US pay-TV subscriber base eroding at record pace::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's been over 20 years since I last paid for cable TV. I'm frankly shocked it's made it this long, but I guess they can milk the boomers for another decade or two. Certainly seems to be working for the GOP anyway.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most of my steaming services are threatening ads now, it's absolutely no difference.

I guess I'm dusting off the ol' pirate hat.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My mom loves TV and for some reason really enjoys commercials. I can't explain it. There must be some inaudible frequency in commercials that's repuslive to me, but appetitive to her.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have they tried reducing their price or increasing the quality of their product?

No?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's alright. They're fucking over internet subscribers just as if we still had a cable TV package.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The day they try to bandwidth cap or piecemeal my internet service, I am becoming a Japanese terrorist

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Does that mean you're Japanese, or that you're going to become Japanese?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

On a lark I hooked up an antenna to see what was on broadcast TV. There were like 5 pbs channels and a dedicated weather channel. For being free it was pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

PBS is actually better than ever and I prefer it over most of what gets shoved in my face on my PC.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

7 bucks a month for "passport" access, so PBS's streaming platform. It's damn good. NOVA episodes all over the place, news, new shows, etc. I gotta up my contribution.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

PBS kids is awesome. Their shows are well made and educational and available for free on their app!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I love my antenna. I get like 20 channels. Local news, pbs, and old cartoons and sitcoms.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Coming up to 16 years since I cut the cord and hardly anyone I know that is younger has cable. It's internet and then streaming.

My father when he passed in 2013 was paying $160/mth for old HD cable for his old 35" RCA tube set before I bought him a LCD TV that required a upgrade to modern HD channels. He didn't have internet with that either. So while they were scamming him for this old 480p HD packages he wasn't alone I'm sure.

I will say at new year's I was at someone's place that only had internet and for the group of us he brought out a HD Amazon antenna to watch the ball drop at midnight on local broadcast TV.

The amount of commercials was jarring. I'm not looking forward to when they bring those to streaming services that are currently hemorrhaging billions.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I watched Fargo last week via broadcast. 5 min to 5 min of commercial time. It's insane.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would watch about 16 minutes before giving up.

In the old days flow TV was max 25-30% ads, how can people live with 50% ads? At that rate it will be "Find the content" so in a few years with 90% ads watching a 45 minute show would take 7.5 hours.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There won't be 45 minute shows. It'll be "Ow, my balls!" and cut to commercial.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Looking forward to 50 seconds commercials and 10 seconds tik-tok videos, but that's just YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Tiktok itself is the worst. I actually like the core of tiktok, but JFC does every other video literally have to be an ad? I actually think it's like 3 out of 5 videos to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Remember when broadcast TV showed commercials on the 15 minute mark, 2-3 at a time for 30 minutes each, maybe more between shows? Commercials seemed like a reasonable tradeoff, plus were predictable so you could fit it in with other things. They dug their own grave, making commercials more intrusive, harder to skip, more frequent. …. Pepperidge Farms remembers

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that OTT services are going to the adv model too. They expect that we pay a minimum subscription cost and watch advertising.....this is crazy

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather do anything else.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd subscribe if there were anything worth watching. Occupational reality shows on every channel. Streaming has gotten so bad lately that I don't think we're going to have a culture in the future just people setting themselves on fire for TikTok clout

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We'll line up in the online queue for "Ow My Balls 7" though. And like it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would I pay $120-140 for cable every month and be forced to watch tons of ads when. I can pay <$20 for Hulu or NFLX a month and watch none?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Give it time, forced advertising is inevitable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

🏴‍☠️

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why is cable TV service, and TV streaming different? Can't the cable service providers just be streaming TV providers? And compete globally?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

The distinction does seem a bit arbitrary, but I think it's the difference between being able to pick what you watch on demand, and having a lot of channels that are just playing whatever.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Actually Disney’s CEO touched about that during that last town hall. They release the shows both on traditional TV and streaming. They realized that the demographics using either platforms don’t overlap so they decided to continue with a parallel release separately to increase their reach. (I was a camera operator filming the event, I’m not a Disney employee, nor do I support any of their opinions)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

They mostly are, or owned by the same companies. The consumer cable companies also deliver Internet access for streaming so they're still getting paid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because content owners don't need cable providers to stream over the internet.

HBO doesn't need Comcast for streaming, they can (and do) stream themselves with HBO Go.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

That’s the main issue here. There used to be a law that studios were not allowed to own movie theaters and so they had to open their movies to be purchased or leased by other distributors. Now, that law is gone and this is why we’re screwed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Its currently cheaper for me to collect used laserdiscs, dvds, and blurays.

People are dumping physical media, and its a firesale. For most discs its $1-5 if you know where to look.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

But not as much as the high seas me heartie...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

🏴‍☠😎

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There’s a guy on one of my FB groups who peddles those one time fee cable boxes. His an absolute legend in the group. People are probably buying those things up in cities all around the world. I only use YouTube TV for about 3 months of the year and Hulu year around otherwise I’d probably buy one.

Dude is probably going to get raided by the FBI at some point.

I hope not because fuck the cable companies, Netflix, Amazon.

Hulu’s a bro though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Such things are a popular malware vector too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

May it end with a whimper not a shout

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd pay for cable for the one/two (please God, two) months my team is in the playoffs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think it will become that ..... cable TV will just become a live event channel for people .... sports, concerts, public events.

They'll stop using it to broadcast TV shows of any kind, including news programs because all of that can be streamed on the internet using modern systems and devices ..... why maintain old cable networks if people can just watch your programming when they want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There are methods to watch to games live online, for free.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Millennials are killing the pay TV industry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I feel like I've read this exact headline 20 times over the past couple of years.

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