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Despite this fall in coal reliance, the thinktank said, “most of the emissions cuts in 2023 are not sustainable from an industrial or climate policy perspective”.

Müller said: “The crisis-related slump in production weakens the German economy. If emissions are subsequently relocated abroad, then nothing has been achieved for the climate.”

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

To hit its climate targets, Germany needed a “barrage of investments” to modernise industry and reduce the carbon footprint from heating, Müller said.

Hmmm decades of profits and they couldn’t afford to do it themselves without needing a barrage of investments?

New solution, ban all dividends and payouts from companies until they invest in being clean.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its easy when you outsorce more and more industry to countries who don’t regulate emissions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

You can not outsource certain emissions like the electricity grid, transport within the country and heating. Also Germany is a massive exporter of industrial products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, still twice the co2 emission of France nuclear based energy production. Good job ecology nerds.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you’re adding the context that basically says “it’s all bogus”, why not adjust the headline accordingly? This makes it seem like Germany actually did something to protect the climate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, we wrecked the economy by trapping it in dead end technologies and killing off innovations for decades under conservative government. Degrowth like a champ!