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Visible grossness. Boils, hives, rashes, as a result of infection.

People really start to give a shit when that's a factor.

State apparatus forcing them to mask

shut down their mouthpieces, take control of their social media, flood everything with actual scientific fact

would erase most of them, the final few die-hards can uh

die hard

:D

Honestly with how the backlash went I think the well has been poisoned for any future pandemics. I don't think people will take precautions unless it is something visibly disfiguring like leprosy or something.

if covid made ya dick small

There's a tickborne disease that makes you allergic to red meat. Imagine if covid did that.

If Covid made you transition.

I would just tell chuds I'm masking up to hide from the deep state.

it could be an airborne and highly contagious fatal hyperherpes that causes your penis to literally burst into flame before killing you and most of the right would still not mask up

A staple gun

Pretty sure there was an article that was like "covid literally shrinks your balls" so i honestly dont think anything will

50% of the US population dying of COVID might do it, but they also might blame it on 5G.

Actual punishment (including enforcement) for not masking or using a bogus mask, that's all it would take

China going anti-mask

Telling them that nobody can hear them say slurs if they wear a mask

The inevitable dustbowl when desertification hits its stride

spit in their mouths

No, you'd need to social body to hold them in disgust for no masking.

See how WW1 gas mask requirements basically killed the Western beard style of the time for a generation or two (with being clean shaven still seen as being more professional)

Simple, fines and arrest. When you make things inconvenient and uncomfortable for a hog, they fall in line. Think about what makes people wear a seatbelt. Hogs don't think deeply, they just do what they feel. But if their choice becomes painful, they comply. Things like this that don't have any clear ideology and aren't exactly a huge inconvenience are easy to enforce. But if you have a clear identity and or project that has real material consequences and the state suppresses it, there will be a lot of resistance.

A lot of these people went out and committed crimes during the pandemic and would not wear masks, even when masks would have helped in evading recognition by security cameras and the police. Pettiness or personal inconvenience or a skewed cost benefit analysis may not be the real problem: they're polarized in a completely opposite direction from us, and at their worst, they actively seek to harm society and the people in it.

From what I have gathered in conversations over the years, during the next pandemic, if and when a biological threat emerges that is severe enough that we will actually have to mandate masks or vaccination or quarantine, that many will start shooting or committing other acts of stochastic terrorism, or interfere with public health in other malicious ways. I've heard enough threats amounting to the same already. A lot of them are far fucking gone, and only going to get worse.

Anti maskers were a thing during the Spanish flu, unfun fact

Stitch some quartz crystals to the sides of N95s, add a drop of essential oil, and market the masks as protection from negative energy and airborne vaccines. Rewrite the instructions to be a magic ritual that requires full coverage of the mouth and nose to complete the seal against evil

Trust in Institutions, Not in Political Leaders, Determines Compliance in COVID-19 Prevention Measures within Societies across the Globe

So to get them to mask up, you would have to restore their trust in public health institutions.

Nothing. They only have their identity. To give that up would be a death just as real as respiratory failure.

The thing that boggles my mind is a conservative favorite was Alex Jones. They all listened to him. He said the gover.ent wousl.make a plague to wipe the people out. They could have been about that life if they wanted. The death drive is strong in these people

I think if covid gave you guaranteed dysentery/norovirus levels of shitting yourself for several days there would be a lot less anti maskers

Death alone won't work because these people refuse to believe they can die or suffer long term health consequences

Tell them AI powered cameras are selling their facial data directly to Putin

For the US, you pretty much have to go all-in on calling Covid a Chinese bioweapon, and I'm not talking about speeches, but things like getting the military to wear masks in order to safeguard them from an alleged bioweapon. You need a lot of "top scientists and intelligence officers have proven without a shadow of a doubt Covid came from a Chinese lab as a bioweapon" and US representatives pontificating in the UN on how China needs to pay reparations for loss of life due to Covid. The atmosphere of the country needs to be that of already being at war with China with Covid being a massive Chinese biological attack. In this context, not wearing a mask means trafficking with the enemy that the US is at war with and thus, a sign of betrayal. And even with this, I don't think most GOP presidents could pull it off, let along a Democrat president. But Trump? Yeah, I think he could pull it off.

i want a reusable mask with replaceable filters but idk which ones work for viruses like covid. but i also worry how other people would react to me looking like a post apocalyptic raider, they freak out enough when i wear a paper or fabric mask. sometimes i kinda wish i lived somewhere with more gun control or a less toxic culture so that i could wear straps and pouches and stuff without people thinking i'm a terrorist, i'm just a dork that wants to dress like a futuristic ninja.

Like mass shootings or other disasters, the rich and their families and children have to be affected. If they’re free from all consequences, there will be no policy.

I don’t know. So much about the anti-mask / anti-vax stuff is so irrational, I have a hard time figuring it out.

My mother always said that if people bled from their eyes or had massive losses of weight it might work. Might.

I kind of see what she means, but I think they’d kill us all for the economy rather than shut down again.

A disease that causes direct and obvious harm to themselves if they don't mask.

As others have mentioned, law enforcement might be the only solution, but it could just be added fuel for "the goverman wants to silence us." Also considering the fact that a non-trivial section of law enforcement officers are anti-maskers makes this even more difficult considering the fact that close contact with a cop is inevitable in America.

Anti-masking is just another symptom of the whole host of problems that plagues a scientifically illiterate USA.

maybe if pastors started saying it would protect you from the evil of the great satan (biden) and you need it to be raptured

Like would a Spanish flu level pandemic do it?

Just looking at the Wikipedia pages for each pandemic, the Spanish Flu is "generally accepted" to have killed 25 to 50 million people. The Wikipedia page for COVID-19 cites a 2022 The Economist article that estimates 18.2 to 33.5 million death toll for the COVID-19 pandemic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-estimates

The COVID-19 pandemic is the 5th most deadly epidemic/pandemic in human history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics#By_death_toll

don't the actual minutiae of how the spanish flu was handled give pretty good lessons on this? from what i remember people posting a few years ago, there were similar kinds of measures put in place by municipalities and similar kinds of responses.

Minor legal penalties. They are little babies.