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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sounds like Rush was one of those risk takers and visionaries. These sorts of people hold themselves up as beacons of light and others do too until the risk taking catches up.

I remember I had a boss that liked some book they read about one of these sorts of people. My boss even had the company buy each of us a copy to read. I skipped it. What I remember though was the the guy died while doing one of their risky things maybe 6 months later. Just thought it was classic. Guy held up as an example by people in authority shows how stupid those people are by getting himself killed.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When things are going well, so many feel like the person avoiding or mitigating risk is silly and dramatic, and the person running headfirst into that risk is brave and rational. Then, when something awful like this happens, it’s always, “No one could have predicted this tragedy!” and they learn nothing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was the whole cause of the 2008 financial crash.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the 1980 crash, which lead to many banking regulations, which were removed shortly before the 2008 crash for stifling the economy. Stifling and stabilizing look very similar until you get to the negative parts.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It is just the process of externalizing costs in internalizing profit. Get rid of regulations, take risks, make a lot of money, when the shit hits the fan say who could have known and get someone else to pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've been the lame guy at so many drunken bon fires...it sucks but I swear I've saved a lot of folks from themselves, others were beyond my help.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nicest thing I can say about this guy is… umm… he died doing what he loved?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly... I can only hope that when I go, I take a handful of rich businessmen with me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

And also one of their kids, who didn't really want to go?

I don't like gloating over the death of random rich people. If people being rich is a problem then this isn't the right solution.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XIyin68vEE

This interview with James Cameron is pretty good, talks about the design issues in detail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

James Cameron seems like a really smart dude.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

The cracking is science noises that you just can’t understand, now that will be 250k

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why does he look like Father Ted Crilly, though? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

"I hear you're a submarinist now, Father".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Careful now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The water was just resting in the submarine!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And the money was just resting in his account.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Say what you want about the guy. He was confident enough to convince others and hubris fucked him hard. No human deserves to die, but there should be consequences if your this fucking delusional.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Idk: I can think of some tyrants and war criminals who deserve death.

I don't think Nuremberg was a mistake

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I doubt this is true. The hull is made out of carbon fiber. It doesn't "crack", it shatters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stockton Rush, the former CEO of Oceangate held a patent on a system that would listen for cracking of the hull that would warn of hull failure, I wonder how it worked out for him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As Cameron said, when you hear these "warnings" they tell you that you are already dead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Since the 1990's I've known people who ride around in old VW's because they were cool. They are not overbuilt and rust is a real problem, but I don't see people worry when 4 people are in the car. I see 6 people in the back of a pickup truck on a regular basis. People will do very risky things on wheeled transportation with high death rates. But when it comes to airplanes, they are hyper concerned about safety. I think people worry too much about the way they are gong to die or the details of a person's last week alive. Makes them ignore the risks in front of them, like car wrecks.

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