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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 year ago (52 children)

WSWS isn't a great source because it's based on a cause.

However, here's the report.

It's uh... Not good.

At what point does the Foreign Assistance Act's ban on sending aid to countries in violation of human rights standards come into play? It seems like we're getting a report on a new war crime every few days, which is a breathtaking rate for a professional Army.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At what point does the Foreign Assistance Act’s ban on sending aid to countries in violation of human rights standards come into play?

when it's politically convenient and not a moment before

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (85 children)

If anyone is still wondering why Hamas and other resistance factions are fighting, this is what happens when the IDF wins.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Fuck Hamas. They are not "resisting", they killed innocent civilians, women and children, and don't give a flying fuck about the Palestinian civilians either (cf Moussa Abu Marzouk's declaration that they are not responsible for defending the civilians in Gaza). They are a creation of the Israeli apartheid regime's own making when they were hoping to destroy the credibility of the PA, to perpetuate their colonialist narrative. Hamas and the Israeli apartheid are two sides of the same brutal, inhuman coin. Fuck Hamas as much as the Likud and the ultranationalist Israeli right to the seventh pit of hell.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Israel is worse than Russia, at least going by the numbers.

Israel has killed more civilians in 2 months than Russia has killed in 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair though, the Russian army is a joke, and say what you want about the IDF, they're good at their job. Their job is to mostly murder innocent civilians, and they're quite good at that, much more efficient than the Russian army

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A witness told the Euro-Med monitor, “Thirteen persons were shot dead and several more were critically injured. The Israeli soldiers later threw shells at the women, who were being held in one of the rooms.” Euro-Med Monitor also recorded a rise in field executions following reports of attacks on Israeli military vehicles by Palestinian factions. This suggests that the crimes being reported are part of Israel’s unlawful retaliatory policy against Palestinian civilians, which is in violation of international humanitarian law.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last month when Hamas terrorists were alleged to be doing the same, according to IDF, American diplomats were pressuring other countries to stop crying fro human rights and just condemn Hamas.

Can we start condemning IDF as a terrorist and genocider organization under control of a rogue government lead by a tyrant now? Just a little bit, please? We will condemn Hamas again, too, if it matters.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Those are Self defence mass executions you fucking antisemite" - Israel probably.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (14 children)

The UN added, “While in control of the building and the civilians sheltering there, the IDF allegedly separated the men from the women and children, and then shot and killed at least 11 of the men, mostly aged in their late 20’s and early 30’s, in front of their family members.” The UN continued, “The IDF then allegedly ordered the women and children into a room, and either shot at them or threw a grenade into the room, reportedly seriously injuring some of them, including an infant and a child. OHCHR has confirmed the killings at Al Awda building.”

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago

When the culture and the legal system that is supposed to punish illegal activity like this, fails to do its job, the message to each individual is clear if not codified.

Behave as you want, because your leadership controls the information coming out to the wider world. Journalists are intimidated and killed.

If you are discovered, you will be quietly reassigned but not actually disciplined. Protests from the UN or other nations are dismissed using various tired phrases or tactics.

If you actually go to trial, the state will bow to pressure from the public and government officials and not sufficiently punish you for even crimes like murder. 18 months for a summary execution that was clearly premeditated and filmed. It doesn’t matter if the prosecution proves mens rea or that you were filmed loading a weapon first before slow walking over to your victim. You will get a downgraded charge to manslaughter and the broad public will push for your immediate release.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My first reaction was just "what the fuck". I still can't believe what I'm reading, although I probably should have. I thought the IDF was better than a mass execution of civilians, but apparently not. They really want that Nazi comparison.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/un-human-rights-office-opt-unlawful-killings-gaza-city

The actual report from the United Nations.

It just says allegations, and it calls on the IDF to investigate.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Of course the IDF should investigate itself. I'm sure they are completely unbiased.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Does not surprise me. A military force that stoops so low that they kill white flag wielding civilians in cold blood has already reached rock bottom.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Hamas is shit for putting terror and attacking Israel above taking care of their own civilians. Israel is shit for mass-execution of innocent civilians.

They're both shit, but we all know this will only end with Israel exterminating an entire population, which is even shittier.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The reason Hamas is in existence is because their peoples' homes being taken and the Palestinians being killed constantly, for years. What would you do if your nation has lived in their land for ages, and a people came and took your family homeland and killed your family, and took neighborhoods and whole swaths of areas, then penned you up so that you couldn't exit or enter your country without their permission...don't you think you'd rise up with some other warriors to do something, anything? That's what Hamas is. It is not a terrorist organization to go out and cause terror and trouble. It is the fighting representative of a beaten people.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (14 children)

but we all know this will only end with Israel exterminating an entire population,

It's so goddamn hilarious that because of history and The Holocaust we aren't allowed to bring up how deliciously ironic it is that a group of people that were rounded up for extermination are summarily rounding up a group of people for extermination.

I can't wait to see how this plays out in history.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Who's not allowed to bring it up? I'll say it all day. I give no fucks that Israel doesn't like it, fuck them.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

OHCHR has confirmed the killings at Al Awda building, although the details and circumstances of the killings are still under verification.

From the UN report cited.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are organizations keeping track of those responsible for war crime trials? I would love to see a list of those responsible, from the lowest ranks to the highest.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

That's to the unwavering diplomatic cover and military help of the US, it's no surprise the far-right racists who are the elected government of Israel are turning the Gaza ghetto into a concentration camp, complete with mass executions.

I mean, even those who dispute them being actual Fascists, can hardly claim to be surprised that a racist ultra-nationalist government whose leader already tried to take over the Judiciary, engaged in an anti-insurgency operation in an occupied territory populated by people from a different etnicity who they call "human animals" and were they've already killed tens of thousands - more than 40% of which children - would end up doing mass executions. I mean, these are people who have more than once said they need a Final Solution for Gaza. The only surprising thing here is that they're still using bullets for it rather than cheaper methods of bulk killing.

The entirelly predictable consequence of the US veto at the UN was exactly to embolden their favorite Fascists to be ever more Fascist, since it made clear to them that the US would always have their back no matter what and any "words of condemnation" by the US Administration were nothing more than hot air.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I think that there is more than enough justification for the Arab League to launch a retaliation at this point. I for my part would support it.

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