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Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight::A jury has decided for Epic Games in the Epic v. Google trial, giving the Fortnite and Unreal Engine maker a historic win in its fight to change how app stores work.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

If Google does then so does Apple?

I don't fully understand this. If you want your app on a store front, you play by their rules or provide direct alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem is, they can't provide a direct alternative. On Apple they straight can't sideload, and on Android Google has intentionally made the experience shitty and dangerous to discourage it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google has intentionally made the experience shitty and dangerous to discourage it.

In what way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They have made it nearly impossible for a non-rooted phone to have apps automatically update, or an app store automatically update apps if it isn't the play store.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

"Apple has better lawyers and protection" basically. The fact that Apple's lock down is still a thing just boggles my mind, especially post windows internet explorer world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

or provide direct alternatives.

yeah. Huawei has their own, Samsung has their own, Amazon has their own, Xiaomi has their own, I imagine so do all other Chinese OEM's. All of these run Android. What exactly does this verdict mean? What was the jury smoking and how the fuck did Google let it slide?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

In the free world outside Usa, Apple gets more legal attacks for that than Google.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

I just wish epic were actually the good guys in this. It's more like bane vs joker.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Sure, Google is problematic, but I don't see how Epic is helping here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it wants the court to tell Google that every app developer has total freedom to introduce its own app stores and its own billing systems on Android

Don't they? Am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I am also confused. I can see Apple getting sued for this, but I have multiple app stores on my Android phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

About time too. Monopolies are the antithesis of what they claim to be

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Up next google banning device fingerprints for "security".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s a historic victory, particularly because Epic mostly lost its fight against Apple two years ago when Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers decided that fight had nothing to do with apps.

But Epic v. Google turned out to be a very different case. It hinged on secret revenue sharing deals between Google, smartphone makers, and big game developers, ones that Google execs internally believed were designed to keep rival app stores down. It showed that Google was running scared of Epic specifically. And it was all decided by a jury, unlike the Apple ruling.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fuck epic, hope this gets appealed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I mean I don't love either company but I'd argue Google is a much more shit company than epic lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago